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		By: Nickell John Romjue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2013 01:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Darwin is, of course, an industry, but an industry which the molecular biological revolution and the Cambrian explosion have destined for the rust-belt.  Those of a mind open to  what  Darwin might say 150 years later about his theory and social impact are invited to peruse &quot;I, Charles Darwin: Being the Journal of His Visitation to Earth in the Year 2009.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darwin is, of course, an industry, but an industry which the molecular biological revolution and the Cambrian explosion have destined for the rust-belt.  Those of a mind open to  what  Darwin might say 150 years later about his theory and social impact are invited to peruse &#8220;I, Charles Darwin: Being the Journal of His Visitation to Earth in the Year 2009.&#8221;</p>
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		By: The Giants&#8217; Shoulders #56 &#124; The Dispersal of Darwin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Greg Laden, &#8220;Charles Darwin, Geologist,&#8221; Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog, February 11, 2013, http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Greg Laden, &#8220;Charles Darwin, Geologist,&#8221; Greg Laden&#8217;s Blog, February 11, 2013, <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/</a>. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: dave s		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/#comment-486047</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said that Darwin was firstly a geologist, perhaps mention should also be made of the pamphlet, `Extracts from letters addressed to Professor Henslow by C. Darwin, Esq’, dated 1 December 1835, privately printed for distribution to members of the Cambridge Philosophical Society. While they also cover other topics, these letters were read, without Darwin&#039;s knowledge, at a meeting of the Cambridge Philosophical Society, 16 November 1835, with the president, Rev. Dr William Clark, in the chair. The minutes record:

&quot;Extracts were read of letters from C. Darwin Esq. of Christ&#039;s College containing accounts of the Geology of certain parts of the Andes and S. America. Observations by Prof. Sedgwick and Henslow.&quot; 

They were significant in promoting Darwin&#039;s reputation as a geologist almost a year before the Beagle returned to England, and influenced his father&#039;s decision to support his career as a naturalist.  

However, from the outset Darwin was a naturalist in a more general sense and I think it&#039;s not quite right to say that he was mainly a geologist on the day he stepped foot on The Beagle. To quickly review the sporadic development of his interest in geology, after collecting pebbles as a child he went to Edinburgh University and heard both sides of the current debate between Huttonian and Wernerian geology. His recollection was that he &quot;attended Jameson&#039;s lectures on Geology and Zoology, but they were incredibly dull. The sole effect they produced on me was the determination never as long as I lived to read a book on Geology or in any way to study the science.&quot; 

His interests in natural history were focussed on marine invertebrates, beetle collecting and then botany with Henslow, as well as a passion for bird shooting. It was only in 1831 during last terms at Cambridge that Darwin read Humboldt&#039;s travels, and became determined to visit Teneriffe. Henslow, who himself had some background in geology, persuaded Darwin to study the subject. Darwin joined Adam Sedgwick&#039;s geology course, then travelled with him in the summer for a fortnight, in order to map strata in Wales. 
Darwin returned home from this trip on 29 August to find Henslow&#039;s letter about captain FitzRoy&#039;s offer of a place for a naturalist on the Beagle, &quot;qualified for collecting, observing, &#038; noting any thing worthy to be noted in Natural History&quot;, more as a gentleman companion than a mere collector. Don&#039;t think anything was recorded of it at this time, but in 1839 when writing up accounts of both voyages, FitzRoy recalled examining a rock sample with &quot;regret that no person in the vessel was skilled in mineralogy, or at all acquainted with geology&quot;, and &quot;inwardly resolving, that if ever I left England again on a similar expedition, I would endeavour to carry out a person qualified to examine the land.&quot; 
At some early point, Fitzroy gave Darwin the first volume of Lyell&#039;s &#039;Principles of Geology&#039;, and on their first stop ashore at St. Jago Darwin put this to good use, starting work geologising on 17 January 1832. From his autobiography, &quot;It then first dawned on me that I might perhaps write a book on the geology of the various countries visited, and this made me thrill with delight.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said that Darwin was firstly a geologist, perhaps mention should also be made of the pamphlet, `Extracts from letters addressed to Professor Henslow by C. Darwin, Esq’, dated 1 December 1835, privately printed for distribution to members of the Cambridge Philosophical Society. While they also cover other topics, these letters were read, without Darwin&#8217;s knowledge, at a meeting of the Cambridge Philosophical Society, 16 November 1835, with the president, Rev. Dr William Clark, in the chair. The minutes record:</p>
<p>&#8220;Extracts were read of letters from C. Darwin Esq. of Christ&#8217;s College containing accounts of the Geology of certain parts of the Andes and S. America. Observations by Prof. Sedgwick and Henslow.&#8221; </p>
<p>They were significant in promoting Darwin&#8217;s reputation as a geologist almost a year before the Beagle returned to England, and influenced his father&#8217;s decision to support his career as a naturalist.  </p>
<p>However, from the outset Darwin was a naturalist in a more general sense and I think it&#8217;s not quite right to say that he was mainly a geologist on the day he stepped foot on The Beagle. To quickly review the sporadic development of his interest in geology, after collecting pebbles as a child he went to Edinburgh University and heard both sides of the current debate between Huttonian and Wernerian geology. His recollection was that he &#8220;attended Jameson&#8217;s lectures on Geology and Zoology, but they were incredibly dull. The sole effect they produced on me was the determination never as long as I lived to read a book on Geology or in any way to study the science.&#8221; </p>
<p>His interests in natural history were focussed on marine invertebrates, beetle collecting and then botany with Henslow, as well as a passion for bird shooting. It was only in 1831 during last terms at Cambridge that Darwin read Humboldt&#8217;s travels, and became determined to visit Teneriffe. Henslow, who himself had some background in geology, persuaded Darwin to study the subject. Darwin joined Adam Sedgwick&#8217;s geology course, then travelled with him in the summer for a fortnight, in order to map strata in Wales.<br />
Darwin returned home from this trip on 29 August to find Henslow&#8217;s letter about captain FitzRoy&#8217;s offer of a place for a naturalist on the Beagle, &#8220;qualified for collecting, observing, &amp; noting any thing worthy to be noted in Natural History&#8221;, more as a gentleman companion than a mere collector. Don&#8217;t think anything was recorded of it at this time, but in 1839 when writing up accounts of both voyages, FitzRoy recalled examining a rock sample with &#8220;regret that no person in the vessel was skilled in mineralogy, or at all acquainted with geology&#8221;, and &#8220;inwardly resolving, that if ever I left England again on a similar expedition, I would endeavour to carry out a person qualified to examine the land.&#8221;<br />
At some early point, Fitzroy gave Darwin the first volume of Lyell&#8217;s &#8216;Principles of Geology&#8217;, and on their first stop ashore at St. Jago Darwin put this to good use, starting work geologising on 17 January 1832. From his autobiography, &#8220;It then first dawned on me that I might perhaps write a book on the geology of the various countries visited, and this made me thrill with delight.&#8221;</p>
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		By: TheBrummell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/#comment-486046</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Sam, I didn&#039;t know the difference between &quot;rock&quot; and &quot;mineral&quot;. I consider myself a biologist, and as a student in a Soil Science department, one of those, too. Which means I often get asked about Geology; despite my interest, I&#039;m not the right person to ask about such things!

Regardless, dolerite forms some really interesting-looking formations, my mind got blown on a recent visit to Cape Raoul.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sam, I didn&#8217;t know the difference between &#8220;rock&#8221; and &#8220;mineral&#8221;. I consider myself a biologist, and as a student in a Soil Science department, one of those, too. Which means I often get asked about Geology; despite my interest, I&#8217;m not the right person to ask about such things!</p>
<p>Regardless, dolerite forms some really interesting-looking formations, my mind got blown on a recent visit to Cape Raoul.</p>
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		By: Sam Bowman		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/#comment-486045</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 06:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did not know that Charles Darwin was a geologist.  Of course, when you are the author of a book of the magnitude that Origin of Species is, it is clear why his geological legacy takes a backseat.  Interestingly, it should be noted that geological forces shape the biology that can live in that area, and biological forces play a huge role in soil interactions, physical weathering of rock, and other surficial geology.  The point is, both are inextricably linked-as is ALL science- to one another.  Thanks, Charles for not only your contributions to biology, but geology as well.  I find it inspiring when scientists take a multidisciplinary approach and step out of the box a bit in order to come to some conclusion.  Well done!

Also, dolerite is a rock, not a mineral.  It&#039;s composition is similar to plutonic gabbro , and volcanic basalt.  Here is more information; http://www.scran.ac.uk/packs/exhibitions/learning_materials/webs/43/dolerite.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that Charles Darwin was a geologist.  Of course, when you are the author of a book of the magnitude that Origin of Species is, it is clear why his geological legacy takes a backseat.  Interestingly, it should be noted that geological forces shape the biology that can live in that area, and biological forces play a huge role in soil interactions, physical weathering of rock, and other surficial geology.  The point is, both are inextricably linked-as is ALL science- to one another.  Thanks, Charles for not only your contributions to biology, but geology as well.  I find it inspiring when scientists take a multidisciplinary approach and step out of the box a bit in order to come to some conclusion.  Well done!</p>
<p>Also, dolerite is a rock, not a mineral.  It&#8217;s composition is similar to plutonic gabbro , and volcanic basalt.  Here is more information; <a href="http://www.scran.ac.uk/packs/exhibitions/learning_materials/webs/43/dolerite.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scran.ac.uk/packs/exhibitions/learning_materials/webs/43/dolerite.htm</a></p>
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		By: TheBrummell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/11/charles-darwin-geologist-2/#comment-486044</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been visiting Tasmania for almost 4 months, going back home to the flat, boring bit in the middle of North America in a couple of weeks. I&#039;ve been trying to get out and explore this island as much as I can. Charles Darwin visited Tasmania during the Voyage of the Beagle; according to a book I&#039;m halfway through, &quot;In Tasmania&quot; by Nicholas Shakespeare, Darwin climbed Mount Wellington during his visit to Hobart, while Captain Fitzgerald discovered an error in Hobart&#039;s time-keeping. Apparently Darwin described dozens of species of arthropods (mostly insects, but I think many spiders, etc. as well) in Tasmania, and I suspect (though I haven&#039;t read widely or deeply enough) the geology of this place contributed to his thoughts on geological processes.

Anyway, knowing good ol&#039; Chuck was here before me has been a wonderful thought to keep in the back of my mind, and the combination of stunning geology and intriguing biology here makes me think that Charles wasn&#039;t too much in the habit of dividing his attention strictly between the two realms. If you spot a new-to-science insect sitting on a rocky outcrop of Dolerite, a mineral that dominates Tasmania (and almost nowhere else) and is on the surface as a result of some very impressive volcanic activity, do you reach for your killing jar or for your rock hammer? Both, of course!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been visiting Tasmania for almost 4 months, going back home to the flat, boring bit in the middle of North America in a couple of weeks. I&#8217;ve been trying to get out and explore this island as much as I can. Charles Darwin visited Tasmania during the Voyage of the Beagle; according to a book I&#8217;m halfway through, &#8220;In Tasmania&#8221; by Nicholas Shakespeare, Darwin climbed Mount Wellington during his visit to Hobart, while Captain Fitzgerald discovered an error in Hobart&#8217;s time-keeping. Apparently Darwin described dozens of species of arthropods (mostly insects, but I think many spiders, etc. as well) in Tasmania, and I suspect (though I haven&#8217;t read widely or deeply enough) the geology of this place contributed to his thoughts on geological processes.</p>
<p>Anyway, knowing good ol&#8217; Chuck was here before me has been a wonderful thought to keep in the back of my mind, and the combination of stunning geology and intriguing biology here makes me think that Charles wasn&#8217;t too much in the habit of dividing his attention strictly between the two realms. If you spot a new-to-science insect sitting on a rocky outcrop of Dolerite, a mineral that dominates Tasmania (and almost nowhere else) and is on the surface as a result of some very impressive volcanic activity, do you reach for your killing jar or for your rock hammer? Both, of course!</p>
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