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	Comments on: Permafrost	</title>
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		By: Jon Nelson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Nelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, it does not sound good for the pipeline according to that report. But I did not see on pages 32-34 anything about sinking into water, as implied by your fortune cookie. One set of pilings was reported to have tilted 7 degrees. So, either one piling sunk or the other rose. I mention the possibility of rising because thawing could introduce the action of frost heave. 

Jon]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it does not sound good for the pipeline according to that report. But I did not see on pages 32-34 anything about sinking into water, as implied by your fortune cookie. One set of pilings was reported to have tilted 7 degrees. So, either one piling sunk or the other rose. I mention the possibility of rising because thawing could introduce the action of frost heave. </p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[See page 33 of this PDF supplied to me by a colleague who writes http://getenergysmartnow.com/: 

http://www.arctic.gov/publications/permafrost.pdf

I propose the following fortune cookie: 

&quot;Those who use ice as their foundation may find themselves in deep water.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See page 33 of this PDF supplied to me by a colleague who writes <a href="http://getenergysmartnow.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://getenergysmartnow.com/</a>: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.arctic.gov/publications/permafrost.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.arctic.gov/publications/permafrost.pdf</a></p>
<p>I propose the following fortune cookie: </p>
<p>&#8220;Those who use ice as their foundation may find themselves in deep water.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/03/permafrost/#comment-485902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 03:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ooops.  I&#039;ll check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops.  I&#8217;ll check.</p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2013/02/03/permafrost/#comment-485901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 02:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I remember correctly, foundations for the Alaska Pipeline are driven into permafrost and designed not to melt the permafrost.  What will thawing permafrost do to the integrity of the Alaska Pipeline, and to any other structures built on the assumption of permafrost forever?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I remember correctly, foundations for the Alaska Pipeline are driven into permafrost and designed not to melt the permafrost.  What will thawing permafrost do to the integrity of the Alaska Pipeline, and to any other structures built on the assumption of permafrost forever?</p>
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