Comments on: Five items of interest to all of you https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/ Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:24:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Michael Haubrich https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-497000 Sat, 22 Dec 2012 00:24:23 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-497000 In point of fact, Hitler’s government liberalized gun laws in 1938, laws which had been in place and imposed because of the Treaty of Versailles. They only took away the gun rights of the Jews, 5 years after they had started rounding them up and putting them in ghettoes. I think you should perhaps study history a little more deeply, Kevin. The Nazi’s had recruited many of their members through gun clubs, and I am not sure if you really want to use that fact as part of your “you know who else disarmed citizens” argument.

]]> By: Yannis https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-496999 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:36:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-496999 Kevin…I would love to see you and a bunch of poorly trained gun owners/rambos in their own minds stand 5 minutes to a SWAT team or any special forces team.
There are some argument for carrying guns that may be valid (very few), but the argument that the citizens need guns to defend against a corrupt government is one of the weakest one. It was completely invalidated as soon as the military class started developing professional members (meaning 1800s). That argument is usually only valid in the mind of very imaginative, power depleted(and power hungry) white men that feel that guns give them the power that “society” took from them(mostly when they let women and “aliens” like me ruin society).

]]> By: Mike Olson https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-496998 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:00:19 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-496998 I use a CZ .17 HMR to engage in varmint style shooting. I am trying to hit very small targets at a long distance. I don’t hunt, but frankly, most folks who are for gun control and also demonize hunters aren’t vegetarians, they are just removed from the reality of their daily meal. Although I’m not currently engaging in the sport, I’ve also enjoyed skeet shooting and target shooting with a pistol. I am extremely liberal in my politics and understand the rationale for gun control. I’ve even had a statement printed in the local paper after a shooting urging gun owners to tone down the vitriol. I tend to see no reason for anyone to have any semi-automatic weapon, nor to use weapons with detachable magazines or high capacity magazines. But, that is my position. Frankly, I’ve always seen gun owners as the ones who are being irrational. However, it does go the other way, their are gun control advocates who are irrational and would limit the freedom of responsible gun owners and hunters. At this point my feelings are that both sides have become so entrenched that neither finds itself willing to moderate and even when discussions begin in a calm fashion they seem to end with all parties becoming more rigidly entrenched than ever.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-496997 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:53:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-496997 Kevin, thank you for the Made Up History lesson! That was fun!

How’s the cleansing going in New Zealand, Australia and the UK?

]]> By: dab https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-496996 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 01:52:39 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-496996 Hahahaha. Yeah, right.

]]> By: Kevin Sanders https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/12/20/five-items-of-interest-to-all-of-you/#comment-496995 Fri, 21 Dec 2012 01:28:18 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=15052#comment-496995 1)German and Russian governments said to their citizens” You dont need guns”.

2)So everyone gave up their guns.

3)Then both German and Russian governments pointed their guns at their newly disarmed citizens and said “Ok, now boad the train.”

4)Then the disarmed citizens were shot, gassed, starved, beaten, buried alive, burned alive, raped, molested, experimented on, hanged, crucified, beheaded,etc.

… and they wonder why we don’t trust government disarmaments of ciizens.

Throughout history, usually when a government disarmed, its citizens, it was becuase a cleasning mode was about to happen. Makes me wonder what the left has in store for the right once they disarm us.

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