To protect me from tyyrannical government? The civilised world deals with unpopular government at the ballot box and that’s working out perfectly well for us. That’s democracy not the anarchy you have when a bunch of mentally unstable nuts with guns appear to think shooting them is a reasonable alternative.

Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009 = 9,146

Number of Murders by firearms, Britain, 2008 = 39

THAT’S what happens when you remove this curse from a society and you don’t need to be an Einstein to figure that out.

so…we can call people who own and want the freedom to utilize weapons (“unhinged personalities) as “mentally ill”, but if we block the “mentally ill” from having weapons…we can have our circular reasoning and eat it too!

Do we need to be afraid of every gun owner? No, certainly not – but given what seems their be their unhinged personalities, i would be concerned about kevin and charlie.

You mentioned other countries have extreme gun control/people control laws. What you said is true, but you left out one important little thing …

The United States of America is a FREE nation with a BILL OF RIGHTS and a DECARATION OF INDEPENDENCE that GAURUNTEES that every American CITIZEN has rights that come from the CREATOR, and not from government, One of those rights is to bear arms.

We do not care what other countries laws says. We do not live there and they do not live here. We are a sovereign nation with out own laws, and rights and other countries can just kiss our butts if they don;t like our laws and God given, not government given laws and rights.

We are a free nation. Some counties that you speak of are not. We adhere God given freedom, not control of the masses. Sorry, communism should be dead.

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen’s firearms are indelibly related.
From the moment the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable.Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands.The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.When firearms, go all goes; we need them every hour.

George Washington

Oh, and if you are a history / quote denier, even if you say GW didn’t say this, it still holds true.

Let freedom ring. Let tyranny fall.

Would you care to discuss gun control in the former Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Cuba, China, Niger, Nigeria,Congo, Ghana, Angola, Sudan, Iran, and Kenya? You know, all those places where private ownership of firearms is partially or totally banned in order to give the government, political parties, or certain tribes a monopoly on deadly force.

By the way, Sudan and Niger still practice slavery despite having laws prohibiting it.

Then explain Switzerland and Israel where citizens are REQUIRED to be armed with machine guns furnished by the government and where the criminal violence is extremely low, except for terrorism in Israel.

Or let’s talk about Japan, where private ownership of firearms is almost unheard of and gun crimes are unknown except for the organized crime syndicates that use firearms and operate semi-legally. They’re big on human trafficking, too.

Yes, Mark, there’s lots to be said for gun control laws, only none of it is good.

Your other article, the one you were proud enough of to reference in your reply, was sickening. Particularly, your little faked graphs citing “bad stuff that happens because of guns.”

Those were absolute gems, but we are accustomed to you carefully selecting your words in an effort to change the truth. You’re very good at that.

The whole premise of my comment is that we have gun control laws and they haven’t worked.

We have background checks.

We have age requirements.

We have prohibitions against criminals, addicts, drunks, wife-beaters, and lunatics owning guns.

We have laws about the legitimate use of guns for defense.

We have stricter penalties for gun crime.

Hell, we even have laws requiring the expulsion of children who draw pictures of guns in school.

Those EXISTING laws have not produced any improvement in any crime rates.

Greg, your claim that yet more laws will make any difference is fantasy. Your statistics are fiction. Your logic is incomplete. Your ethics are nonexistent. Your prejudices and bigotry are astounding. Your arrogance is breathtaking. In short, you are a fool, a highly educated, totally opinionated fool with perhaps a touch of evil and deceitfulness thrown in for good measure.

Criminals, you see, do not obey laws. That’s what makes them criminals. And you know that.

Here’s an indisputable fact: if someone had shot that lunatic through the head when he first walked into the school, there would have been no massacre.

The truth about gun control is that IT DOES NOT WORK.

Anyway, have a look at this:

http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/12/17/sandy-hook-their-horror-our-country-your-guns/