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	Comments on: NASA Press Conference Will Announce Voyager Captured by Alien Craft!	</title>
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		By: Jason		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 22:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Jon

BOOM ROASTED, its a blog and an enjoyable one at that. I enjoy the snarky tone of it. Seriously, could you be any more of a whiny little girl? Go find something else to bitch about...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon</p>
<p>BOOM ROASTED, its a blog and an enjoyable one at that. I enjoy the snarky tone of it. Seriously, could you be any more of a whiny little girl? Go find something else to bitch about&#8230;</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon, I&#039;m not looking down my nose at anyone, but if I&#039;m critiquing anyone (and I am) it is fellow scientist and science writers who have joined the &quot;NASA is doing science by press conference&quot; bandwagon.

My comparison with the laboratory setting and the modern rover is set in the context of change over time.  Reread that section.  You&#039;lll see I&#039;m comparing the present to some unspecified point in the past when you could not do what they are doing now.

Funny that the number of words of complaining from you is approaching the length of the blog post that you did not read very carefully!  It&#039;s almost like you were looking down your nose at me or something.

NASA has not overhyped anything; read their press reports.  Unless we think that every word that comes out of every NASA employee represents NASA, which would require that NASA control what their employees say very carefully. I would prefer not to have it that way.  Finally, again, I&quot;m not taking about the &quot;average person.&quot; I&#039;m talking about the scientists and science writers, a subset of whom, I think, are wrong on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I&#8217;m not looking down my nose at anyone, but if I&#8217;m critiquing anyone (and I am) it is fellow scientist and science writers who have joined the &#8220;NASA is doing science by press conference&#8221; bandwagon.</p>
<p>My comparison with the laboratory setting and the modern rover is set in the context of change over time.  Reread that section.  You&#8217;lll see I&#8217;m comparing the present to some unspecified point in the past when you could not do what they are doing now.</p>
<p>Funny that the number of words of complaining from you is approaching the length of the blog post that you did not read very carefully!  It&#8217;s almost like you were looking down your nose at me or something.</p>
<p>NASA has not overhyped anything; read their press reports.  Unless we think that every word that comes out of every NASA employee represents NASA, which would require that NASA control what their employees say very carefully. I would prefer not to have it that way.  Finally, again, I&#8221;m not taking about the &#8220;average person.&#8221; I&#8217;m talking about the scientists and science writers, a subset of whom, I think, are wrong on this.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 13:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;would have required 3,000 feet of laboratory floor space full of expensive equipment and a dozen technicians working for two months back in the day. But they did it with a Robot. On Mars. In a few days. And everything worked.&quot;

This makes very little sense. We can either perform these experiments on a machine the size of the rover or we cant. Explain to me why it is only possible on Mars. Are you saying if I drove Curiosity into my back yard and performed sample testing on some random patch of dirt, nothing would happen?  i would need to find myself thousands of feet of lab space and teams of guys? No.

We made an advancement. Kick Ass. It&#039;s not the average persons fault that NASA over hypes things and most physicists are too self absorbed to explain it to people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;would have required 3,000 feet of laboratory floor space full of expensive equipment and a dozen technicians working for two months back in the day. But they did it with a Robot. On Mars. In a few days. And everything worked.&#8221;</p>
<p>This makes very little sense. We can either perform these experiments on a machine the size of the rover or we cant. Explain to me why it is only possible on Mars. Are you saying if I drove Curiosity into my back yard and performed sample testing on some random patch of dirt, nothing would happen?  i would need to find myself thousands of feet of lab space and teams of guys? No.</p>
<p>We made an advancement. Kick Ass. It&#8217;s not the average persons fault that NASA over hypes things and most physicists are too self absorbed to explain it to people.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 13:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I find it impressive but not necessarily amazingly. I expect advancements in technology over thirty years. We have been sending rovers to Mar&#039;s since my dad was my age. However, just because I find it impressive I wouldn&#039;t, as a scientist, expect  or fault anyone else who thought otherwise.

I read your blog regularly and seems lately you have had this very disdainful tone. It has made it hard to read. If you expect people to share in your joy you should try to educate rather than insult. The scientific community of the past ten years has become rather good at looking down its nose at people and you&#039;re adding to the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I find it impressive but not necessarily amazingly. I expect advancements in technology over thirty years. We have been sending rovers to Mar&#8217;s since my dad was my age. However, just because I find it impressive I wouldn&#8217;t, as a scientist, expect  or fault anyone else who thought otherwise.</p>
<p>I read your blog regularly and seems lately you have had this very disdainful tone. It has made it hard to read. If you expect people to share in your joy you should try to educate rather than insult. The scientific community of the past ten years has become rather good at looking down its nose at people and you&#8217;re adding to the problem.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jon, that is not smug.  This is a blog post that starts out with a picture of a UFO.  Think about it for a minute.

Then, after you&#039;ve been thinking for a moment, I do have a question for you  that you might try to answer if you&#039;ve got anything left: Do you think it is not amazingly impressive that they ran this pile of dirt to the ground, as it were? Because if you don&#039;t .....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, that is not smug.  This is a blog post that starts out with a picture of a UFO.  Think about it for a minute.</p>
<p>Then, after you&#8217;ve been thinking for a moment, I do have a question for you  that you might try to answer if you&#8217;ve got anything left: Do you think it is not amazingly impressive that they ran this pile of dirt to the ground, as it were? Because if you don&#8217;t &#8230;..</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can I ask why you are so smug?
&quot;If you don’t think that is overwhelmingly exciting than you are either dead or have no idea how science works.&quot;

wow. You&#039;re pathetic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I ask why you are so smug?<br />
&#8220;If you don’t think that is overwhelmingly exciting than you are either dead or have no idea how science works.&#8221;</p>
<p>wow. You&#8217;re pathetic</p>
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		By: gruebait		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gruebait]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NASA TV is great. Hearing the questions asked by reporters can be very revealing.

Hearing the answers directly from the investigators is great. The detail of their explanations is often missing from articles based on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA TV is great. Hearing the questions asked by reporters can be very revealing.</p>
<p>Hearing the answers directly from the investigators is great. The detail of their explanations is often missing from articles based on them.</p>
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