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		By: Dennis Wallace		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-873148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2020 02:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495890&quot;&gt;rick doninger&lt;/a&gt;.

I have over a dozen Burials on my property which is the rear entrance to an Ancient Paleo City, pre-Clovis , Indians found the area sacred and did not tread here, no conflicting artifacts !  European and North African artifacts ! geopolymer Ceramics made into points and tools, Glass ,  not your typical site, artifacts appear as mammoth / mastodon hunters . My research indicates gravettian in nature , we also have Carnac france type stones covering our Columbiana County Ohio,  these folks had a number of [industries] including - Mining Coal , stone works , geopolymer ceramics, glass and if glass probably metals , Meat ,Building , ETC. 
I Should add there is a cover up of North American History by the US Government the Government or some group in the Government have  permitted these Mounds defaced, the Undocumented Mounds in this system since the 1960&#039;s,  so they have no intention of admitting to your find  they have gone to unbelievable lengths to cover up this City and Burials !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495890">rick doninger</a>.</p>
<p>I have over a dozen Burials on my property which is the rear entrance to an Ancient Paleo City, pre-Clovis , Indians found the area sacred and did not tread here, no conflicting artifacts !  European and North African artifacts ! geopolymer Ceramics made into points and tools, Glass ,  not your typical site, artifacts appear as mammoth / mastodon hunters . My research indicates gravettian in nature , we also have Carnac france type stones covering our Columbiana County Ohio,  these folks had a number of [industries] including &#8211; Mining Coal , stone works , geopolymer ceramics, glass and if glass probably metals , Meat ,Building , ETC.<br />
I Should add there is a cover up of North American History by the US Government the Government or some group in the Government have  permitted these Mounds defaced, the Undocumented Mounds in this system since the 1960&#8217;s,  so they have no intention of admitting to your find  they have gone to unbelievable lengths to cover up this City and Burials !</p>
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		By: Dennis Wallace		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-873088</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Wallace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495883&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

I have over a dozen Burials on my property which is the rear entrance to an Ancient Paleo City, pre-Clovis , Indians found the area sacred and did not tread here, no conflicting artifacts !  European and North African artifacts ! geopolymer Ceramics made into points and tools, Glass ,  not your typical site, artifacts appear as mammoth / mastodon hunters . My research indicates gravettian in nature , we also have Carnac france type stones covering our Columbiana County Ohio,  these folks had a number of [industries] including - Mining Coal , stone works , geopolymer ceramics, glass and if glass probably metals , Meat , ETC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495883">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>I have over a dozen Burials on my property which is the rear entrance to an Ancient Paleo City, pre-Clovis , Indians found the area sacred and did not tread here, no conflicting artifacts !  European and North African artifacts ! geopolymer Ceramics made into points and tools, Glass ,  not your typical site, artifacts appear as mammoth / mastodon hunters . My research indicates gravettian in nature , we also have Carnac france type stones covering our Columbiana County Ohio,  these folks had a number of [industries] including &#8211; Mining Coal , stone works , geopolymer ceramics, glass and if glass probably metals , Meat , ETC.</p>
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		By: ben davis		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-714552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ben davis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495895&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;.

The Cherokee and Lumbee indian DNA points to North African Origins,  not Northern European DNA.  These are people who left North African probably over 60,000 years ago!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495895">Greg Laden</a>.</p>
<p>The Cherokee and Lumbee indian DNA points to North African Origins,  not Northern European DNA.  These are people who left North African probably over 60,000 years ago!!</p>
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		By: Rick doninger		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick doninger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2016 20:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Charles,  your still trollin around? Mahabone to ya, is that how you say it? Or is it still a secret?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,  your still trollin around? Mahabone to ya, is that how you say it? Or is it still a secret?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2015 02:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		By: C R		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So Greg:  did Rick D. wow you with a sample &quot;particular tool or core that you know would be included in a middle paleolithic assemblage as is found abroad&quot; which &quot;clearly display the attributes of human manufacture such as bulbs of percussion, bifacial flaking, impact ripples, retouch&quot; -?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Greg:  did Rick D. wow you with a sample &#8220;particular tool or core that you know would be included in a middle paleolithic assemblage as is found abroad&#8221; which &#8220;clearly display the attributes of human manufacture such as bulbs of percussion, bifacial flaking, impact ripples, retouch&#8221; -?</p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Barbara Lockaby		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/11/11/across-atlantic-ice-clovis-origins/#comment-495900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Lockaby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a retired high school social studies teacher and have researched and surface hunted for 50 years. In all my studies and as part Cherokee I believe that your theory is right on. I have no doubt that the Clovis Culture spread from east to west, I get so upset at all the researchers who center almost total attention to western sites,. I have artifacts that would disgrace most of what they find, I have beautiful petroglyphs, one in particular that is of a person dated to be 4,000 years old, a fluted celt, and one unfluted  clovis knife dated 13,000 years old. Just thought I would mention these few to show what I have found in South Eastern Kentucky. It has been said that this area may be the original home of the Cherokee, I don&#039;t know about that, but could be, just appreciate your writings and for you to know that others in high places need to be a little more open-minded and maybe do a little more surface hunting instead of digging in holes,where the air may get a little stale, thanks again, Barb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a retired high school social studies teacher and have researched and surface hunted for 50 years. In all my studies and as part Cherokee I believe that your theory is right on. I have no doubt that the Clovis Culture spread from east to west, I get so upset at all the researchers who center almost total attention to western sites,. I have artifacts that would disgrace most of what they find, I have beautiful petroglyphs, one in particular that is of a person dated to be 4,000 years old, a fluted celt, and one unfluted  clovis knife dated 13,000 years old. Just thought I would mention these few to show what I have found in South Eastern Kentucky. It has been said that this area may be the original home of the Cherokee, I don&#8217;t know about that, but could be, just appreciate your writings and for you to know that others in high places need to be a little more open-minded and maybe do a little more surface hunting instead of digging in holes,where the air may get a little stale, thanks again, Barb.</p>
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		By: Nils		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nils]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2014 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed this book not because it&#039;s contrarian, but for the patiently reasoned technical arguments (and cool pictures!).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this book not because it&#8217;s contrarian, but for the patiently reasoned technical arguments (and cool pictures!).</p>
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		By: Matt Musgrove		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Musgrove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 03:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg-fascinating subject.  Sounds like you might have a paper or even a book ready to publish regarding European origin of the Clovis culture.  I have always wondered about the seeming insistence on an Asian origin for the Clovis people despite copious evidence that Asian forerunners of native populations were bone tool users, not stone users.  It is hard to imagine people suddenly producing some of the finest examples of stone tool work in the world simply by virtue of a changed environment.  Why also is there such resistance to the idea of European boat users when Australian aboriginals clearly used boats well over 40,000 ago?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg-fascinating subject.  Sounds like you might have a paper or even a book ready to publish regarding European origin of the Clovis culture.  I have always wondered about the seeming insistence on an Asian origin for the Clovis people despite copious evidence that Asian forerunners of native populations were bone tool users, not stone users.  It is hard to imagine people suddenly producing some of the finest examples of stone tool work in the world simply by virtue of a changed environment.  Why also is there such resistance to the idea of European boat users when Australian aboriginals clearly used boats well over 40,000 ago?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tina, the palaeolithi does not terminate before 100,000 years ago.  You might be thinking of 10,000 years ago.  Also, the
&quot;Paleolithic&quot; does not necessarily immediately precede the &quot;age of agriculture&quot; where both exist (there is usually a mesolithic and a neolithic, with the neolithic being where &quot;agriculture&quot; usually is found) but that nomenclature does not by any means apply globally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tina, the palaeolithi does not terminate before 100,000 years ago.  You might be thinking of 10,000 years ago.  Also, the<br />
&#8220;Paleolithic&#8221; does not necessarily immediately precede the &#8220;age of agriculture&#8221; where both exist (there is usually a mesolithic and a neolithic, with the neolithic being where &#8220;agriculture&#8221; usually is found) but that nomenclature does not by any means apply globally.</p>
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