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		By: Rick in Miami		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick in Miami]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2015 05:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First, using words that you know perfectly well the vast majority of readers will not know is insensitive and self-aggrandizing. &quot;Maneno&quot;? Puh-leez!
Second, please take some classes is punctuation. You really need some help.
Third, there is absolutely nothing complicated about dropping Columbus Day from the US calendar of holidays. All we need to do is drop it -- that&#039;s it. And NOT replace it with something stupid like a so-called Indigenous People&#039;s Day.
Frankly, I&#039;m sick and tired of singling out this ethnic/racial group or that to &quot;celebrate.&quot; It&#039;s very polarizing for all the other myriad ethnic groups we have in this great country.
Okay, &#039;nuff said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, using words that you know perfectly well the vast majority of readers will not know is insensitive and self-aggrandizing. &#8220;Maneno&#8221;? Puh-leez!<br />
Second, please take some classes is punctuation. You really need some help.<br />
Third, there is absolutely nothing complicated about dropping Columbus Day from the US calendar of holidays. All we need to do is drop it &#8212; that&#8217;s it. And NOT replace it with something stupid like a so-called Indigenous People&#8217;s Day.<br />
Frankly, I&#8217;m sick and tired of singling out this ethnic/racial group or that to &#8220;celebrate.&#8221; It&#8217;s very polarizing for all the other myriad ethnic groups we have in this great country.<br />
Okay, &#8217;nuff said.</p>
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		By: Ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am so happy to have learned the word maneno! Also, I agree that the second weekend in October should be Thanksgiving. Who came up with the fourth Thursday in November? It&#039;s an awful time for a holiday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy to have learned the word maneno! Also, I agree that the second weekend in October should be Thanksgiving. Who came up with the fourth Thursday in November? It&#8217;s an awful time for a holiday.</p>
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		By: Mario Cuomo Has Died. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mario Cuomo Has Died. &#8211; Greg Laden&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] was a citizen of New York when Mario Cuomo became governor. I&#8217;ve written before about the ethnic angle of that event, how Cuomo, who was Italian, was the highest ranking ethnic [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was a citizen of New York when Mario Cuomo became governor. I&#8217;ve written before about the ethnic angle of that event, how Cuomo, who was Italian, was the highest ranking ethnic [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[S, no, I can interject opinion.

No, comparing the Republican Party prior to a few decades back with the current party, and doing the same for the Dems is wrong.  The original KKK were Democrats, all those crazy super right wing jim crow Republicans in Congress (who have all died off) were Democrats.  Put we can&#039;t characterize the living, active members of these parties on the critter that 50 or 100 years ago things were different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S, no, I can interject opinion.</p>
<p>No, comparing the Republican Party prior to a few decades back with the current party, and doing the same for the Dems is wrong.  The original KKK were Democrats, all those crazy super right wing jim crow Republicans in Congress (who have all died off) were Democrats.  Put we can&#8217;t characterize the living, active members of these parties on the critter that 50 or 100 years ago things were different.</p>
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		By: S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You really shouldn&#039;t interject biased and vastly (frankly, insulting) generalizations into an article that should otherwise be written objectively. That comment about Republicans being racists is pretty ignorant- there are disgusting racists on any side and if you believe the Democratic party is full of saints, you&#039;re wrong. Brandon was actually correct about Lincoln being a Republican, as it is a widely known fact that the Republican party was the party that freed the slaves and the Democrats were the ones who founded the KKK. Don&#039;t drag ignorance into fact.

&quot;Its [the Ku Klux Klan] members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s.&quot; -History.com.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really shouldn&#8217;t interject biased and vastly (frankly, insulting) generalizations into an article that should otherwise be written objectively. That comment about Republicans being racists is pretty ignorant- there are disgusting racists on any side and if you believe the Democratic party is full of saints, you&#8217;re wrong. Brandon was actually correct about Lincoln being a Republican, as it is a widely known fact that the Republican party was the party that freed the slaves and the Democrats were the ones who founded the KKK. Don&#8217;t drag ignorance into fact.</p>
<p>&#8220;Its [the Ku Klux Klan] members waged an underground campaign of intimidation and violence directed at white and black Republican leaders. Though Congress passed legislation designed to curb Klan terrorism, the organization saw its primary goal–the reestablishment of white supremacy–fulfilled through Democratic victories in state legislatures across the South in the 1870s.&#8221; -History.com.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So.  You are anti Pre Clovis, then.  Fine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.  You are anti Pre Clovis, then.  Fine.</p>
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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Haubrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 02:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that perhaps we should change the name to Clovis People&#039;s Day.   Move it to the last Friday in November.  We should take October 12 and make it Thanksgiving so that we are on par wtih the Canadians.

The Italians, I am sorry, but they don&#039;t get a holiday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that perhaps we should change the name to Clovis People&#8217;s Day.   Move it to the last Friday in November.  We should take October 12 and make it Thanksgiving so that we are on par wtih the Canadians.</p>
<p>The Italians, I am sorry, but they don&#8217;t get a holiday.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Martin Luther King and Jr ... Republican&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Some quotes from MLK Jr.
&lt;blockquote&gt; “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, &lt;b&gt;I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy&lt;b&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It seems that Martin Luther King Jr. was no fan of Reagan:
&lt;blockquote&gt;When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Finally, his son, said this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;“It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and &lt;b&gt; there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican&lt;b&gt;.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your assertion, Brandon, that he was a Republican seems to be a blatant falsehood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Martin Luther King and Jr &#8230; Republican</p></blockquote>
<p>Some quotes from MLK Jr.</p>
<blockquote><p> “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.<br />
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, <b>I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy</b><b>.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>It seems that Martin Luther King Jr. was no fan of Reagan:</p>
<blockquote><p>When a Hollywood performer, lacking distinction even as an actor can become a leading war hawk candidate for the Presidency, only the irrationalities induced by a war psychosis can explain such a melancholy turn of events.</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, his son, said this:</p>
<blockquote><p>“It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and <b> there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican</b><b>.”</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Your assertion, Brandon, that he was a Republican seems to be a blatant falsehood.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 20:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/10/08/that-columbus-day-is-evil-a-truth-and-a-falsehood-2/#comment-495329&quot;&gt;Brandon&lt;/a&gt;.

Brandon, you stopped reading after the third sentence? That approach will get you the muddled view of history you seem to have!  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/10/08/that-columbus-day-is-evil-a-truth-and-a-falsehood-2/#comment-495329">Brandon</a>.</p>
<p>Brandon, you stopped reading after the third sentence? That approach will get you the muddled view of history you seem to have!  🙂</p>
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		By: Brandon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stopped reading your post after reading the line &quot;thoughtful progressive american vs. republican/white supremeist&quot;. You do know that the KKK was created by democrats and as of 2010 there was still a democrat grand dragon with the kkk still in congress. Lincoln was republican as well as Martin Luther King and Jr. Someone needs to study up and learn some more facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped reading your post after reading the line &#8220;thoughtful progressive american vs. republican/white supremeist&#8221;. You do know that the KKK was created by democrats and as of 2010 there was still a democrat grand dragon with the kkk still in congress. Lincoln was republican as well as Martin Luther King and Jr. Someone needs to study up and learn some more facts.</p>
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