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		By: J.D.		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/09/29/the-secular-coalition-of-americas-big-goof/#comment-495016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya&#039; know it takes a dick and a vagina ta&#039; procreate... Who fuckin&#039; cares if you are male or female, or if someone is slightly too feminist or slightly too masoginist... Doesn&#039;t matter, just live with it. I&#039;ve said some pretty disturbing things on both sides of the fence m&#039;self and I don&#039;t think that in anyway retracts from my ability to hold a job or position... Hell I write the Captain m&#039;fuckin&#039; Hentai comics O.O]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217; know it takes a dick and a vagina ta&#8217; procreate&#8230; Who fuckin&#8217; cares if you are male or female, or if someone is slightly too feminist or slightly too masoginist&#8230; Doesn&#8217;t matter, just live with it. I&#8217;ve said some pretty disturbing things on both sides of the fence m&#8217;self and I don&#8217;t think that in anyway retracts from my ability to hold a job or position&#8230; Hell I write the Captain m&#8217;fuckin&#8217; Hentai comics O.O</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the correction on who put the inappropriate image together with Justin&#039;s inappropriate post.

Thank you also for your concern.  I am sorry that I made you sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the correction on who put the inappropriate image together with Justin&#8217;s inappropriate post.</p>
<p>Thank you also for your concern.  I am sorry that I made you sad.</p>
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		By: Paul Elam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Elam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 09:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Steersman

You are indeed correct. Justin Vacula had nothing to do with the  image placed on that article. I know this to be true because I was the one that placed it there.

It saddens me greatly to see witch hunts going on in the secular community. Critique is being misinterpreted as &quot;attack&quot; and criticism is being intentionally and maliciously conflated with efforts to silence.

It seems pretty obvious to me where the efforts to silence are coming from, and it isn&#039;t Justin Vacula.

Feminism is an ideology. As such it should be subjected to as much scrutiny as any other belief system. Unless, of course, it upsets the congregation too much.

What a pity to see the secular community descend into dogma.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Steersman</p>
<p>You are indeed correct. Justin Vacula had nothing to do with the  image placed on that article. I know this to be true because I was the one that placed it there.</p>
<p>It saddens me greatly to see witch hunts going on in the secular community. Critique is being misinterpreted as &#8220;attack&#8221; and criticism is being intentionally and maliciously conflated with efforts to silence.</p>
<p>It seems pretty obvious to me where the efforts to silence are coming from, and it isn&#8217;t Justin Vacula.</p>
<p>Feminism is an ideology. As such it should be subjected to as much scrutiny as any other belief system. Unless, of course, it upsets the congregation too much.</p>
<p>What a pity to see the secular community descend into dogma.</p>
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		By: TheOtherStan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/09/29/the-secular-coalition-of-americas-big-goof/#comment-495013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheOtherStan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Same old Laden. McCarthyist smearing by association and bereft of any actual evidence for the denunciation. Shouldn&#039;t you be harassing Bluharmony or Abbie Smith instead you hero? And why was it again you were ejected from FTB Laden? Hmmm? Was it something to do with threats against co-blogger someone who wouldn&#039;t buy your snake oil?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same old Laden. McCarthyist smearing by association and bereft of any actual evidence for the denunciation. Shouldn&#8217;t you be harassing Bluharmony or Abbie Smith instead you hero? And why was it again you were ejected from FTB Laden? Hmmm? Was it something to do with threats against co-blogger someone who wouldn&#8217;t buy your snake oil?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alan, what is the club to which you  refer?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, what is the club to which you  refer?</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/09/29/the-secular-coalition-of-americas-big-goof/#comment-495011</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Feynman was a pretty smart cookie and although I&#039;m no genius, I do share many of his views. Like me, he hated &quot;clubs&quot;, he said all they did was sit around all day and talk about who was/wasn&#039;t worthy enough to be a member of their club.
Sure he was refereeing to National Academies at the time, but I&#039;ve found from personal experiences such as this one, that it&#039;s a general principle that can be applied to all clubs]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feynman was a pretty smart cookie and although I&#8217;m no genius, I do share many of his views. Like me, he hated &#8220;clubs&#8221;, he said all they did was sit around all day and talk about who was/wasn&#8217;t worthy enough to be a member of their club.<br />
Sure he was refereeing to National Academies at the time, but I&#8217;ve found from personal experiences such as this one, that it&#8217;s a general principle that can be applied to all clubs</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t if fun to see all the Creationist arguments being used for another topic? You must address &quot;both&quot; sides of the issue. If you won&#039;t debate me, then I win be default.

Ken Ham would be proud!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t if fun to see all the Creationist arguments being used for another topic? You must address &#8220;both&#8221; sides of the issue. If you won&#8217;t debate me, then I win be default.</p>
<p>Ken Ham would be proud!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Me? Sarcasm? Perish the thought!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me? Sarcasm? Perish the thought!</p>
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		By: jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whaa?  The &quot;proper levels of melanin&quot; for what environment, the savannah?  White people DO have the proper levels of melanin for life in northern latiudes, as evidenced by the fact that most African-Americans are deficient in vitamin D.  Or am I failing to detect the sarcasm here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whaa?  The &#8220;proper levels of melanin&#8221; for what environment, the savannah?  White people DO have the proper levels of melanin for life in northern latiudes, as evidenced by the fact that most African-Americans are deficient in vitamin D.  Or am I failing to detect the sarcasm here?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 13:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Oh, sorry, my mistake. I kind of assumed that as a skeptic you would want to address all challenges to your position. &lt;/em&gt;

The question of whether or not MRAs are sexist misogynist jerks that need not be taken seriously was settled a long time ago.  I&#039;ll start to debate that issue after I&#039;ve finished debating all the creationists.  And I don&#039;t debate them either.

I&#039;ve addressed questions about testosterone here: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/08/02/men-testosterone-damaged-women/

Dark skinned people are not damaged white people. White people, on the other hand, are dark skinned people with genetic defects that cause their skin to not have the proper levels of melanin. Have I not blogged about that before?  Perhaps I should see to that.

Chris: That&#039;s how I feel, that one thing is enough to disqualify him from a Humanist movement!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Oh, sorry, my mistake. I kind of assumed that as a skeptic you would want to address all challenges to your position. </em></p>
<p>The question of whether or not MRAs are sexist misogynist jerks that need not be taken seriously was settled a long time ago.  I&#8217;ll start to debate that issue after I&#8217;ve finished debating all the creationists.  And I don&#8217;t debate them either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve addressed questions about testosterone here: <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/08/02/men-testosterone-damaged-women/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/08/02/men-testosterone-damaged-women/</a></p>
<p>Dark skinned people are not damaged white people. White people, on the other hand, are dark skinned people with genetic defects that cause their skin to not have the proper levels of melanin. Have I not blogged about that before?  Perhaps I should see to that.</p>
<p>Chris: That&#8217;s how I feel, that one thing is enough to disqualify him from a Humanist movement!</p>
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