Comments on: The Melting of Earth's Northern Ice Cap: Update https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/ Sun, 26 Aug 2012 05:19:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Dadaha https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494345 Sun, 26 Aug 2012 05:19:12 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494345 he made the mistake, not that he never said annhtiyg like that and some climate denier must have hacked the site. Steve, I do have some compassion. No one ever said that you were wrong about the salon article originally. Even me, to my shame did not question the veracity of the article. The problem is that once you were presented with PROOF that you were wrong, you did not just admit it and then proceed to ridicule the REAL prediction. I would have had no problem with that, and your reputation would not be suffering from your constant inability to admit making what was initially an honest mistake. Again I appreciate you continuing to keep the issue on the front burner so to speak.

]]> By: Joy Gorson https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494344 Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:23:34 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494344 I’m not a scientist but I was intrigued by something I read which wasn’t fully clear to me. Some lakes of ice-melt in Greenland disappeared suddenly (not freezing), seemingly pouring downward through crevasses. Question: Can enough water under the 2 km ice make the whole shebang start sliding into the sea?

]]> By: Runaway Warming [Page 3.14] | Single Planet https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494343 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:01:27 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494343 […] peaking in winter, and melting all spring and summer. This September we are likely to abide by the lowest of lows; Greg Laden writes “There is less sea ice in the Arctic Circle than recorded in recent […]

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494342 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:09:32 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494342 Balle,

this is a recent paper

on the glaciers in Spisbergen. They are retreating. Your information is highly inaccurate, and you are clearly some sort of science denier. The Earth is warming and you are dismissed.

]]> By: Balle Hansen https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494341 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:25:33 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494341 This is one of the coldest summers on record in Spisbergen, Norwegian arctic. Significant snowmasses still covers the island. Glaciers are growing (as usual). Sea temperature below 5 degrees. In 1922 it was 15 degrees. The Earth is steadily cooling and we in the high Arctic see this every day.

]]> By: Another Week of GW News – August 19, 2012 – A Few Things Ill Considered https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494340 Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:28:01 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494340 […] 2012/08/15: GLaden: The Melting of Earth’s Northern Ice Cap: Update […]

]]> By: Ian Kemmish https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494339 Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:18:26 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494339 I can’t help thinking that articles like this do much more harm than good!

Leaving aside the description of the Canadian climate as a purely linear thing that’s unaffected by such otherwise ubiquitous phenomena as the jetstream (the reason why a cold Canadian spring led to the wettest summer in recorded history in Bedfordshire, apparently) , two graphs that do the same thing for a bit are not evidence of “a direct relationship”; they are evidence of our desire to see patterns everywhere we look.

The only hope of getting the man on the street to think seriously about climate change, is for science journalists to start writing sensible stuff on the topic, which in turn means making sure they don’t get confused by seeing over-simplistic stuff like this…..

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494338 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:30:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494338 Will add missing graph when I find computer … In forest now.

]]> By: gwen https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494337 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 06:58:08 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494337 I saw that news too. It depresses me that the far right is still in strong denial about AGW. I wonder how much of that denial has to do with the ‘second coming of Christ’, you know, when we get that pesky Armageddon out of the way.

]]> By: eNeMeE https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/15/the-melting-of-earths-northern-ice-cap-update/#comment-494336 Thu, 16 Aug 2012 02:23:15 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/?p=13146#comment-494336

But there is a neat graph that shows why glacial melting is both more important than one might thing and also more complicated than one might think. Have a look:

I can haz a graph, plz?

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