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		By: Climate: last year and this year &#171; The Standard		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate: last year and this year &#171; The Standard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 04:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: The year the earth bit back: top climate stories of 2012		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The year the earth bit back: top climate stories of 2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: More and More of the Earth Is Getting Hotter and Hotter &#124; Care2 Causes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 14:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] but other scientists assert that there is a link between global warming and drought. On Science Blogs, Greg Laden lists a number of studies that argue for a link between recent warming and widespread [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] but other scientists assert that there is a link between global warming and drought. On Science Blogs, Greg Laden lists a number of studies that argue for a link between recent warming and widespread [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 04:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Holdren  has violated the Precautionary Princilple by  allowing NASA to carsh an SUV into the back yard  of Ming The Merciless .

The irate Emperor might retaliate by firing up the Nitron Ray he used  to inflict climate change  on the FDR administration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Holdren  has violated the Precautionary Princilple by  allowing NASA to carsh an SUV into the back yard  of Ming The Merciless .</p>
<p>The irate Emperor might retaliate by firing up the Nitron Ray he used  to inflict climate change  on the FDR administration.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494254</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[# - The few powerful Luddites hanging on to their FF’s business model.

Sorry my post is a bit garbled, it was meant to run on with something like &quot;...should be forced to take responsibility for their waste products.&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># &#8211; The few powerful Luddites hanging on to their FF’s business model.</p>
<p>Sorry my post is a bit garbled, it was meant to run on with something like &#8220;&#8230;should be forced to take responsibility for their waste products.&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494253</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 08:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Greg,
This is much better than the bald assertion you posted in a previous blog. AGW does not cause drought, floods and wildfire problems, it amplifies them and shifts their geographical location. The US is only now starting to feel the effects. Similar effects in Oz have been noticeable for at least the last decade. The reason that this is a POTENTIAL catastrophe is because those kinds of weather patterns are taking hold in the world&#039;s grain belts (as predicted prior to that by modeling of Hadley cells).

So called &#039;skeptics&#039; wanted to see observational evidence before doing anything, well here it is. We can put down the extra economic damage done so far as a cost of following their policy path. That cost is being accounted for in actuary tables and has been inflating insurance premiums and grain prices since the turn of the century.

The time has long past since we need more evidence to justify modernizing our global energy infrastructure. The few powerful Luddites hanging on to their  FF&#039;s business model.

The energy &#039;market&#039; is not a place it&#039;s a set or rules governing trade (not the least of which is property law). Other than political will there is nothing stopping us from tweeking those rules in such a way that the Luddites either adapt their business model or or be eaten by their clean competitors.

Such tweeks have been made before, eg: the clean air act, the cap and trade treaty for Sulfur emissions instigated by Regan, and the removal of lead from petrol. Each time this sort of tweek happens the same small crowd of Luddites scream like stuck pigs, it&#039;s time to ignore their wolf cries and let our engineers get on with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,<br />
This is much better than the bald assertion you posted in a previous blog. AGW does not cause drought, floods and wildfire problems, it amplifies them and shifts their geographical location. The US is only now starting to feel the effects. Similar effects in Oz have been noticeable for at least the last decade. The reason that this is a POTENTIAL catastrophe is because those kinds of weather patterns are taking hold in the world&#8217;s grain belts (as predicted prior to that by modeling of Hadley cells).</p>
<p>So called &#8216;skeptics&#8217; wanted to see observational evidence before doing anything, well here it is. We can put down the extra economic damage done so far as a cost of following their policy path. That cost is being accounted for in actuary tables and has been inflating insurance premiums and grain prices since the turn of the century.</p>
<p>The time has long past since we need more evidence to justify modernizing our global energy infrastructure. The few powerful Luddites hanging on to their  FF&#8217;s business model.</p>
<p>The energy &#8216;market&#8217; is not a place it&#8217;s a set or rules governing trade (not the least of which is property law). Other than political will there is nothing stopping us from tweeking those rules in such a way that the Luddites either adapt their business model or or be eaten by their clean competitors.</p>
<p>Such tweeks have been made before, eg: the clean air act, the cap and trade treaty for Sulfur emissions instigated by Regan, and the removal of lead from petrol. Each time this sort of tweek happens the same small crowd of Luddites scream like stuck pigs, it&#8217;s time to ignore their wolf cries and let our engineers get on with it.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;del&gt;I haven&#039;t seen that paper yet.  As far as I can tell, there isn&#039;t anything from PNAS in the current issue or their early release.&lt;/del&gt;

Added.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><del>I haven&#8217;t seen that paper yet.  As far as I can tell, there isn&#8217;t anything from PNAS in the current issue or their early release.</del></p>
<p>Added.</p>
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		By: Daniel J. Andrews		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel J. Andrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can add dr. Hansen&#039;s latest. He broke the embargo on his paper with an op-Ed inWashPo(?) so the journal has released it early.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add dr. Hansen&#8217;s latest. He broke the embargo on his paper with an op-Ed inWashPo(?) so the journal has released it early.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/08/04/what-is-the-link-between-global-warming-and-drought/#comment-494250</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 00:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I think that&#039;s right.  I was just comparing my own experience with coastal weather in Boston with tornado ally.

Start stocking up now! On what, though, I&#039;m not sure .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think that&#8217;s right.  I was just comparing my own experience with coastal weather in Boston with tornado ally.</p>
<p>Start stocking up now! On what, though, I&#8217;m not sure .</p>
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		By: Paul S.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 00:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;In Boston it can rain for a few days off and on but mostly on, with an inch off rain falling over a long period of time. But here in the Midwest, that almost never happens. Instead, it’s not raining, then this big scary storm comes and dumps a whole pile of rain on you, then it moves on. In between storms it can be dry vor many days.&quot;

Interestingly, I&#039;ve heard people from the Pacific Northwest and western Europe comment about how sudden and short the rainstorms in Massachusetts are, compared to the weather they&#039;re used to, where it will sometimes drizzle and rain intermittently for days or even weeks.  I guess Massachusetts is somewhere in between the climate of the UK or Washington state and that of the Midwest.

On the serious issue, though, it scares me how quickly the climate seems to be changing, with ice levels declining and extreme weather increasing noticeably over periods of just a few years, which is extremely rapid for worldwide changes.  Between climate change and oil and other natural resources peaking and then becoming harder to find, the next century or two will not be easy ones for the human race.  I hope we can figure out ways to make it through with human civilization intact.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Boston it can rain for a few days off and on but mostly on, with an inch off rain falling over a long period of time. But here in the Midwest, that almost never happens. Instead, it’s not raining, then this big scary storm comes and dumps a whole pile of rain on you, then it moves on. In between storms it can be dry vor many days.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interestingly, I&#8217;ve heard people from the Pacific Northwest and western Europe comment about how sudden and short the rainstorms in Massachusetts are, compared to the weather they&#8217;re used to, where it will sometimes drizzle and rain intermittently for days or even weeks.  I guess Massachusetts is somewhere in between the climate of the UK or Washington state and that of the Midwest.</p>
<p>On the serious issue, though, it scares me how quickly the climate seems to be changing, with ice levels declining and extreme weather increasing noticeably over periods of just a few years, which is extremely rapid for worldwide changes.  Between climate change and oil and other natural resources peaking and then becoming harder to find, the next century or two will not be easy ones for the human race.  I hope we can figure out ways to make it through with human civilization intact.</p>
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