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	Comments on: Epogen, Procrit and Aranesp: ineffective, too expensive, and dangerous?	</title>
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		By: Alex Ber		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Ber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good article. It is rather unfortunate that over the last 10 years, the travel industry has had to tackle terrorism, SARS, tsunamis, bird flu virus, swine flu, as well as first ever real global recession. Through it all the industry has really proven to be effective, resilient plus dynamic, finding new methods to deal with misfortune. There are continually fresh complications and chance to which the field must all over again adapt and react.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. It is rather unfortunate that over the last 10 years, the travel industry has had to tackle terrorism, SARS, tsunamis, bird flu virus, swine flu, as well as first ever real global recession. Through it all the industry has really proven to be effective, resilient plus dynamic, finding new methods to deal with misfortune. There are continually fresh complications and chance to which the field must all over again adapt and react.</p>
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		By: Jan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The black box side effects are true. My dad is in the hospital as I write this. He is 89 and has anemia a symptom of mds, he  also had a heart valve problem. Dr. Sandeep Thapper used high doses of procrit on him for 7 months. He developed clots in his lungs, his heart was damaged further, and his liver was inflamed from the pain killer he took for the extreme joint pain it caused. When he complained of chest pressure he was given another shot. Presently he is so weak he cannot walk but lucky to have survived the procrit death. Last summer he drove his boat, the golf cart and cut an acre of lawn. Do not use procrit off label. He frightened my 87 year old mother of transfusions...he got angry when I would not allow my father to get a shot. It was 7 months of hell. He just had his second transfusion and did great! His road back will be long!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black box side effects are true. My dad is in the hospital as I write this. He is 89 and has anemia a symptom of mds, he  also had a heart valve problem. Dr. Sandeep Thapper used high doses of procrit on him for 7 months. He developed clots in his lungs, his heart was damaged further, and his liver was inflamed from the pain killer he took for the extreme joint pain it caused. When he complained of chest pressure he was given another shot. Presently he is so weak he cannot walk but lucky to have survived the procrit death. Last summer he drove his boat, the golf cart and cut an acre of lawn. Do not use procrit off label. He frightened my 87 year old mother of transfusions&#8230;he got angry when I would not allow my father to get a shot. It was 7 months of hell. He just had his second transfusion and did great! His road back will be long!</p>
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		By: Jan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2014 02:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The black box side effects are true. My dad is in the hospital as I write this. He is 89 and has anemia a symptom of mds, he  also had a heart valve problem. Dr. Sandeep Thapper used high doses of procrit on him for 7 months. He developed clots in his lungs, his heart was damaged further, and his liver was inflamed from the pain killer he took for the extreme joint pain it caused. When he complained of chest pressure he was given another shot. Presently he is so weak he cannot walk but lucky to have survived the procrit death. Last summer he drove his boat, the golf cart and cut an acre of lawn. Do not use procrit off label. He frightened my 87 year old mother of transfusions...he got angry when I would not allow my father to get a 412-400-7665. It was 7 months of hell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The black box side effects are true. My dad is in the hospital as I write this. He is 89 and has anemia a symptom of mds, he  also had a heart valve problem. Dr. Sandeep Thapper used high doses of procrit on him for 7 months. He developed clots in his lungs, his heart was damaged further, and his liver was inflamed from the pain killer he took for the extreme joint pain it caused. When he complained of chest pressure he was given another shot. Presently he is so weak he cannot walk but lucky to have survived the procrit death. Last summer he drove his boat, the golf cart and cut an acre of lawn. Do not use procrit off label. He frightened my 87 year old mother of transfusions&#8230;he got angry when I would not allow my father to get a 412-400-7665. It was 7 months of hell.</p>
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		By: WDC		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WDC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My practioners over prescribed epogen and/or procrit for the whole two years I was on dialysis. Only now am I realizing what was going on. I was being prescribed and the scripts were being filled for amounts way and above what I was actually using. I still have mutliple vials of the stuff from the time I was on it (2008 - 2010). All the time trusting the practioners &quot;knew what they were doing&quot;. And boy did they ! They were bilking Medicare and/or my private insurance out of $1,000&#039;s of dollars. How&#039;s that for concrete information, Gwen ? And how &#039;bout you wonderstuff, am I some &quot;crackpot spinning pseudo science&quot; ? Have either of you the gumption to respond ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My practioners over prescribed epogen and/or procrit for the whole two years I was on dialysis. Only now am I realizing what was going on. I was being prescribed and the scripts were being filled for amounts way and above what I was actually using. I still have mutliple vials of the stuff from the time I was on it (2008 &#8211; 2010). All the time trusting the practioners &#8220;knew what they were doing&#8221;. And boy did they ! They were bilking Medicare and/or my private insurance out of $1,000&#8217;s of dollars. How&#8217;s that for concrete information, Gwen ? And how &#8217;bout you wonderstuff, am I some &#8220;crackpot spinning pseudo science&#8221; ? Have either of you the gumption to respond ?</p>
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		By: gwen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493910</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sun set and &quot;Hours later, Lenox was dead.&quot;  Correlation is still not causation. Did he die from a known side effect of the drug? Did he die of the cancer? Did he have a heart attack? That is a crap article. It gives no concrete information, only supposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sun set and &#8220;Hours later, Lenox was dead.&#8221;  Correlation is still not causation. Did he die from a known side effect of the drug? Did he die of the cancer? Did he have a heart attack? That is a crap article. It gives no concrete information, only supposition.</p>
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		By: krishnarao		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[krishnarao]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[50 years ago we had a sort of commitment for the health of humans. There was no thought of Wall Street and share values. Vitamins, minerals, antibiotics were the order of the day and they stood the test of times. Today it is the INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY THAT IS SUBJECTED TO  PATENTING.The goal is $billions and a global looting by all the pharma companies. Now our health is in the hands of God and good genes of our fore-fathers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 years ago we had a sort of commitment for the health of humans. There was no thought of Wall Street and share values. Vitamins, minerals, antibiotics were the order of the day and they stood the test of times. Today it is the INTELLECTUAL DISHONESTY THAT IS SUBJECTED TO  PATENTING.The goal is $billions and a global looting by all the pharma companies. Now our health is in the hands of God and good genes of our fore-fathers.</p>
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		By: wonderstuff		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493908</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wonderstuff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m looking forward to the input of Science Based Medicine bloggers on this&quot;

Why the hell do you want that septic tank of crackpots on it? What it needs is an objective audit of the evidence, not more psuedo science spin!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m looking forward to the input of Science Based Medicine bloggers on this&#8221;</p>
<p>Why the hell do you want that septic tank of crackpots on it? What it needs is an objective audit of the evidence, not more psuedo science spin!</p>
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		By: MadScientist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/19/epogen-procrit-and-aranesp-ineffective-too-expensive-and-dangerous/#comment-493907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MadScientist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 06:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t new either - it&#039;s been going on for at least 30 years.   One example is if you&#039;re admitted to hospital you&#039;ll get an I.V. of some sort stuck in you whether you need it or not - it&#039;s all to do with kickbacks and other immoral &#039;incentives&#039;.  That sort of thing is one of the reasons my dad quit the civilian hospital scene.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t new either &#8211; it&#8217;s been going on for at least 30 years.   One example is if you&#8217;re admitted to hospital you&#8217;ll get an I.V. of some sort stuck in you whether you need it or not &#8211; it&#8217;s all to do with kickbacks and other immoral &#8216;incentives&#8217;.  That sort of thing is one of the reasons my dad quit the civilian hospital scene.</p>
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