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		By: Pete		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The full paper is available on arXiv: http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The full paper is available on arXiv: <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507" rel="nofollow ugc">http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507</a></p>
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		By: Pete		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493866</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The full paper is available on arXiv: http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The full paper is available on arXiv: <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507" rel="nofollow ugc">http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.2507</a></p>
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		By: wereatheist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wereatheist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No reactor. It is called a thermonuclear battery. Heat from radioactive decay is used via thermoelectric elements to generate electric power, at a dismal degree of efficiency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No reactor. It is called a thermonuclear battery. Heat from radioactive decay is used via thermoelectric elements to generate electric power, at a dismal degree of efficiency.</p>
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		By: Ian Kemmish		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493863</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Kemmish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, the headlights effect is going to be dwarfed by the drag on your alternator required to power them in the first place.

However, this would appear to mean that rear engined cars are marginally more efficient than front engined, since bulkheads reflect infra-red more and grilles transmit it more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the headlights effect is going to be dwarfed by the drag on your alternator required to power them in the first place.</p>
<p>However, this would appear to mean that rear engined cars are marginally more efficient than front engined, since bulkheads reflect infra-red more and grilles transmit it more.</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Note to self: If designing a deep space probe, put all the thermal radiation stuff on the back end so that the thing slowly speeds up forever instead of slowly slows down forever.&lt;/i&gt;

Easier said than done. The reason you put thermal radiators on your spacecraft is to dissipate heat that would otherwise fry your electronics. But these radiators can absorb photons as well as emit them, and you have a major source of infrared photons called the Sun somewhere behind your spacecraft. If your radiators are in front of the spacecraft, they don&#039;t collect these photons because they are in the shadow of the spacecraft. In addition, you need an antenna on the back side of the spacecraft (so it can phone home), and you will probably want a particle detector of some kind (because the people who are backing your mission will want to know what the solar wind and solar energetic particles look like).

I&#039;m sure there are ways to do it, which may not have been understood when the Pioneers were built. But it&#039;s not a trivial thing; there are engineers who specialize in spacecraft thermal design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Note to self: If designing a deep space probe, put all the thermal radiation stuff on the back end so that the thing slowly speeds up forever instead of slowly slows down forever.</i></p>
<p>Easier said than done. The reason you put thermal radiators on your spacecraft is to dissipate heat that would otherwise fry your electronics. But these radiators can absorb photons as well as emit them, and you have a major source of infrared photons called the Sun somewhere behind your spacecraft. If your radiators are in front of the spacecraft, they don&#8217;t collect these photons because they are in the shadow of the spacecraft. In addition, you need an antenna on the back side of the spacecraft (so it can phone home), and you will probably want a particle detector of some kind (because the people who are backing your mission will want to know what the solar wind and solar energetic particles look like).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are ways to do it, which may not have been understood when the Pioneers were built. But it&#8217;s not a trivial thing; there are engineers who specialize in spacecraft thermal design.</p>
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		By: ChicoPinto		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChicoPinto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 05:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice post, Greg!!!

But I think I know what NASA did. It launched the first boomerang space probe!

Because of this radiation emission, at 10.000 years from now, Pioneer will return to the Solar System!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Greg!!!</p>
<p>But I think I know what NASA did. It launched the first boomerang space probe!</p>
<p>Because of this radiation emission, at 10.000 years from now, Pioneer will return to the Solar System!!!</p>
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		By: Robert B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t blame the Klingons. Last human space probe that got that far out spawned Vy&#039;ger. That was a tremendous mess.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t blame the Klingons. Last human space probe that got that far out spawned Vy&#8217;ger. That was a tremendous mess.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Or just put the headlights on the back and go faster!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or just put the headlights on the back and go faster!</p>
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		By: anthrosciguy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/pioneer-anomaly-re-explained/#comment-493858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anthrosciguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“The effect is something like when you’re driving a car and the photons from your headlights are pushing you backward.”&lt;/i&gt;

Next winter don&#039;t forget to turn off your headlights before trying to push your car out of that snowbank; you don&#039;t need any extra resistance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“The effect is something like when you’re driving a car and the photons from your headlights are pushing you backward.”</i></p>
<p>Next winter don&#8217;t forget to turn off your headlights before trying to push your car out of that snowbank; you don&#8217;t need any extra resistance!</p>
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