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		By: Rosy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 05:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The naturalistic fallacy is the fallacy of attempting to define evaluative concepts with descriptive concepts . The naturalistic fallacy is related to but is not identical with the “is-ought fallacy,” which is the fallacy of drawing evaluative conclusions from descriptive premises.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The naturalistic fallacy is the fallacy of attempting to define evaluative concepts with descriptive concepts . The naturalistic fallacy is related to but is not identical with the “is-ought fallacy,” which is the fallacy of drawing evaluative conclusions from descriptive premises.</p>
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		By: Kevin Sanders		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Sanders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can also translate &quot;Animals are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other. &quot; INTO

Occupy Wall Street Protestors are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other as well. Maybe some people are more animal than human.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also translate &#8220;Animals are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other. &#8221; INTO</p>
<p>Occupy Wall Street Protestors are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other as well. Maybe some people are more animal than human.</p>
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		By: Kevin Sanders		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Sanders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“homosexuality is immoral because animals don’t ever do it!”

That is not correct. Animals do do it. That&#039;s what makes them ANIMALS. They are viscious predatory killers without souls and without accountability to their CREATOR. Humans are not animals. We have souls. We will one day have ressureected bodies. We will one day give an account or judgement unto our maker. Animals are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other.

Then again there is a species of human that is quite similar. They may be extinct now but at one time theyr were called hippies.

Get a life and stop sodomizing America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“homosexuality is immoral because animals don’t ever do it!”</p>
<p>That is not correct. Animals do do it. That&#8217;s what makes them ANIMALS. They are viscious predatory killers without souls and without accountability to their CREATOR. Humans are not animals. We have souls. We will one day have ressureected bodies. We will one day give an account or judgement unto our maker. Animals are just dumb fuzzy things that eat, sleep, poop, and screw each other.</p>
<p>Then again there is a species of human that is quite similar. They may be extinct now but at one time theyr were called hippies.</p>
<p>Get a life and stop sodomizing America.</p>
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		By: Mike Lewinski		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493854</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Lewinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a song by Love &#038; Rockets that includes this:

You can&#039;t go against nature
Because when you do
go against nature
that&#039;s part of nature too

So another reason why the naturalistic fallacy is a mistake is because the distinction between nature and artifice is itself artificial (wait, that makes it natural, right?)

What&#039;s really interesting is how often people make the mistake of appeal to nature while also getting their characterization of &quot;nature&quot; dead wrong. I.E. &quot;homosexuality is immoral because animals don&#039;t ever do it!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a song by Love &amp; Rockets that includes this:</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t go against nature<br />
Because when you do<br />
go against nature<br />
that&#8217;s part of nature too</p>
<p>So another reason why the naturalistic fallacy is a mistake is because the distinction between nature and artifice is itself artificial (wait, that makes it natural, right?)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really interesting is how often people make the mistake of appeal to nature while also getting their characterization of &#8220;nature&#8221; dead wrong. I.E. &#8220;homosexuality is immoral because animals don&#8217;t ever do it!&#8221;</p>
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		By: CherryBombSim		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherryBombSim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I prolly should have said [ specified peculiar human sexual behavior ].]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prolly should have said [ specified peculiar human sexual behavior ].</p>
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		By: CherryBombSim		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493852</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CherryBombSim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marnie, I think that would fall under the &quot; [ specified peculiar sexual behavior ] MUST be adaptive&quot; fallacy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marnie, I think that would fall under the &#8221; [ specified peculiar sexual behavior ] MUST be adaptive&#8221; fallacy.</p>
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		By: Marnie		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naturally!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That last one being squid, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last one being squid, right?</p>
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		By: Marnie		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/17/marriage-and-the-naturalistic-fallacy/#comment-493849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, if we look to nature for marital advice, perhaps we can go with the the female killing the male after copulation. Or maybe we&#039;d prefer that one male gets all the females in the area and is the only one who mates until another man kills him. While he&#039;s at it, the new guy can kill any children that aren&#039;t his own. Can&#039;t risk wasting resources on some other dude&#039;s genetic material.

Or maybe we should just go with the most common solution and have individuals hook up with whomever looks best and then never see each other again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if we look to nature for marital advice, perhaps we can go with the the female killing the male after copulation. Or maybe we&#8217;d prefer that one male gets all the females in the area and is the only one who mates until another man kills him. While he&#8217;s at it, the new guy can kill any children that aren&#8217;t his own. Can&#8217;t risk wasting resources on some other dude&#8217;s genetic material.</p>
<p>Or maybe we should just go with the most common solution and have individuals hook up with whomever looks best and then never see each other again.</p>
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