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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Microsoft does this stuff all the time.  Remember, they wanted the browser to be part of the system, they did everything they could to force  people to use only that browser.  Imagine if all Windows users were forced to use IE only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft does this stuff all the time.  Remember, they wanted the browser to be part of the system, they did everything they could to force  people to use only that browser.  Imagine if all Windows users were forced to use IE only.</p>
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		By: j a higginbotham		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493831</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j a higginbotham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A while ago there was a version of Microsoft&#039;s browser that wouldn&#039;t let you go to Netscape&#039;s home page and redirected to the MS site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago there was a version of Microsoft&#8217;s browser that wouldn&#8217;t let you go to Netscape&#8217;s home page and redirected to the MS site.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493830</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve noticed some other stuff going into spam lately as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed some other stuff going into spam lately as well.</p>
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		By: Eric Lund		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493829</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Lund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have any direct experience with Gmail, but I recently noticed the following notice on the NASA proposal website (nspires dot nasaprs dot com):
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you are using Gmail to receive emails sent from NSPIRES, there is a possibility that Gmail will flag these NSPIRES emails as spam and divert them to your Gmail junk folder. If you have not received an expected NSPIRES email, check your Gmail junk folder. NOTE: NSPIRES users at universities and colleges should pay particular attention to this issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It appears that Gmail modified their spam filter algorithm sometime in late June, leading to stuff that formerly wasn&#039;t flagged by the spam filter getting flagged as such. It doesn&#039;t appear to have been intentionally aimed at Apple, since other stuff is being caught as well, but it serves as a reminder: Every now and then, be sure to check your spam folder for false positives.

The NASA proposal site links to a PDF explaining how to ensure that the mail you get from them doesn&#039;t fall into the Gmail spam filter. I would guess (but haven&#039;t tried it myself, since this is not a problem for me) that a similar procedure would stop mail from Apple falling into the Gmail spam filter.

Also for the record: I have occasionally had e-mail from Apple fall into the spam filter in Apple&#039;s own Mail program. That includes Apple Store receipts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any direct experience with Gmail, but I recently noticed the following notice on the NASA proposal website (nspires dot nasaprs dot com):</p>
<blockquote><p>If you are using Gmail to receive emails sent from NSPIRES, there is a possibility that Gmail will flag these NSPIRES emails as spam and divert them to your Gmail junk folder. If you have not received an expected NSPIRES email, check your Gmail junk folder. NOTE: NSPIRES users at universities and colleges should pay particular attention to this issue.</p></blockquote>
<p>It appears that Gmail modified their spam filter algorithm sometime in late June, leading to stuff that formerly wasn&#8217;t flagged by the spam filter getting flagged as such. It doesn&#8217;t appear to have been intentionally aimed at Apple, since other stuff is being caught as well, but it serves as a reminder: Every now and then, be sure to check your spam folder for false positives.</p>
<p>The NASA proposal site links to a PDF explaining how to ensure that the mail you get from them doesn&#8217;t fall into the Gmail spam filter. I would guess (but haven&#8217;t tried it myself, since this is not a problem for me) that a similar procedure would stop mail from Apple falling into the Gmail spam filter.</p>
<p>Also for the record: I have occasionally had e-mail from Apple fall into the spam filter in Apple&#8217;s own Mail program. That includes Apple Store receipts.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Benton&#039;s explanation does not explain these events.   That didn&#039;t happen.   Also, it is not the case that either Gmail never spam-boxes anything it should not or does it all the time to Apple.  Google usually does things here and there and in bits and pieces.  Fact is, there is a handful of similar reports suggesting that apple email is suddenly getting spam-boxed by gmail when it was not before, without any explanation.

It could be random; it is quite possible that gmail randomly goes bad on your inbox.  Or it could be something being tried out or a bit nefarious.  Either way, if you spend the money on an apple gift certificate via email, you better send the recipient a separate email telling them it has been sent so they will know to look in their spam folder.

I&#039;ve got iTunes related email in the spam folder going back to July 7th.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benton&#8217;s explanation does not explain these events.   That didn&#8217;t happen.   Also, it is not the case that either Gmail never spam-boxes anything it should not or does it all the time to Apple.  Google usually does things here and there and in bits and pieces.  Fact is, there is a handful of similar reports suggesting that apple email is suddenly getting spam-boxed by gmail when it was not before, without any explanation.</p>
<p>It could be random; it is quite possible that gmail randomly goes bad on your inbox.  Or it could be something being tried out or a bit nefarious.  Either way, if you spend the money on an apple gift certificate via email, you better send the recipient a separate email telling them it has been sent so they will know to look in their spam folder.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got iTunes related email in the spam folder going back to July 7th.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493827</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll comment that I use Gmail as my email service, and receive emails from Apple without problem.

A few weeks ago, I bought an iPad3 at an Apple Store for my wife&#039;s birthday, and got my email receipt from Apple. And got an email survey thing from Apple, asking about the sales experience.

Most recently, I set up an appointment with a Genius, got an email confirmation of the time, an email reminder the morning of, and got another email survey the next day asking how things went at the appointment.

I haven&#039;t had problems reading Apple emails via Gmail. My guess is along the lines suggested by Benton.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll comment that I use Gmail as my email service, and receive emails from Apple without problem.</p>
<p>A few weeks ago, I bought an iPad3 at an Apple Store for my wife&#8217;s birthday, and got my email receipt from Apple. And got an email survey thing from Apple, asking about the sales experience.</p>
<p>Most recently, I set up an appointment with a Genius, got an email confirmation of the time, an email reminder the morning of, and got another email survey the next day asking how things went at the appointment.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t had problems reading Apple emails via Gmail. My guess is along the lines suggested by Benton.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Chris, you are repeating silly memes. The US postal service delivers most first class mail in one day from point a to point b for a few cents, two days top.

The government does a lot of things &quot;better&quot; and &quot;more efficient&quot; than industry.  What you are arguing simply isn&#039;t true, you&#039;ve provided no evidence, and you have either bought into an incorrect popular belief, uncritically, or for some reason (i.e., your own political bent?) you want others to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you are repeating silly memes. The US postal service delivers most first class mail in one day from point a to point b for a few cents, two days top.</p>
<p>The government does a lot of things &#8220;better&#8221; and &#8220;more efficient&#8221; than industry.  What you are arguing simply isn&#8217;t true, you&#8217;ve provided no evidence, and you have either bought into an incorrect popular belief, uncritically, or for some reason (i.e., your own political bent?) you want others to do so.</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You use the US postal system as a shining example of efficientcey? Really the over bloated nearly bankrupt behemoth of bureaucratic disasters! Your&#039;re right the USPS would not have done that, she probably would a have never gotten it and you would have had to plant a full month in advance to get it to her plus pay a whole lot more tha the price of the card. The government does nothing better or more efficient, they are a shining example of dysfunction in its purest form.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You use the US postal system as a shining example of efficientcey? Really the over bloated nearly bankrupt behemoth of bureaucratic disasters! Your&#8217;re right the USPS would not have done that, she probably would a have never gotten it and you would have had to plant a full month in advance to get it to her plus pay a whole lot more tha the price of the card. The government does nothing better or more efficient, they are a shining example of dysfunction in its purest form.</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493824</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, it can&#039;t be the adaptive filter based upon my deletion of Apple receipts since I don&#039;t delete my Apple receipts and it happened to me as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it can&#8217;t be the adaptive filter based upon my deletion of Apple receipts since I don&#8217;t delete my Apple receipts and it happened to me as well.</p>
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		By: F		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/07/15/warning-to-apple-product-users-who-use-gmail/#comment-493823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[F]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 02:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pfft. Never mind that. Happy birthday to Julia!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft. Never mind that. Happy birthday to Julia!</p>
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