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		By: Homies		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-35048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Homies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15715&quot;&gt;Paul Hunter&lt;/a&gt;.

, the problem is this law is based upon the beelif of reason. Even the most educated people can lose their temper, and most people are far from educated in the United States. The end result is that whatever the community considers reasonable ends up becoming the difference between a murder charge and  standing your ground.  If you are a minority or a poor person, and the other person involved is rich or white or both, you know as well as I do who will get the murder charge and who will not. If Trayvon Martin had  stood his ground,  he would be on his way to the pen, whereas Zimmerman, as an affluent Jewish person, had little doubt to believe that the court system would see it any other way. If I am attacked, I will stand my ground, but since I am just poor white trash, I know that the law will not defend me- unless it is another poor person. I was walking back from my job at McDonald&#039;s to my college dorm room when I lived in TN, and a pickup truck full of fraternity brothers decided to throw beer bottles at me. If I had (rightfully) beat them down, I know I would have went to jail, and these frat boys would have gotten away with it, because they are rich/upper middle class, and I am just poor white trash. If it had been black or hispanic people who had done it, I could get away with it, but then again, Ive never in my life had a black person or a hispanic person insult me for being poor, let alone attack me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15715">Paul Hunter</a>.</p>
<p>, the problem is this law is based upon the beelif of reason. Even the most educated people can lose their temper, and most people are far from educated in the United States. The end result is that whatever the community considers reasonable ends up becoming the difference between a murder charge and  standing your ground.  If you are a minority or a poor person, and the other person involved is rich or white or both, you know as well as I do who will get the murder charge and who will not. If Trayvon Martin had  stood his ground,  he would be on his way to the pen, whereas Zimmerman, as an affluent Jewish person, had little doubt to believe that the court system would see it any other way. If I am attacked, I will stand my ground, but since I am just poor white trash, I know that the law will not defend me- unless it is another poor person. I was walking back from my job at McDonald&#8217;s to my college dorm room when I lived in TN, and a pickup truck full of fraternity brothers decided to throw beer bottles at me. If I had (rightfully) beat them down, I know I would have went to jail, and these frat boys would have gotten away with it, because they are rich/upper middle class, and I am just poor white trash. If it had been black or hispanic people who had done it, I could get away with it, but then again, Ive never in my life had a black person or a hispanic person insult me for being poor, let alone attack me.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 14:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul: &quot;A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News&quot;

Independent evidence with secure chain of evidence.  NOT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: &#8220;A medical report compiled by the family physician of Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News&#8221;</p>
<p>Independent evidence with secure chain of evidence.  NOT.</p>
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		By: Paul Hunter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That’s a bit of an exaggeration. I mean, this WAS basically a lynching except for method, but Zimmerman’s not much of a mob.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532

Don&#039;t jump to judgement, let the jury decide]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a bit of an exaggeration. I mean, this WAS basically a lynching except for method, but Zimmerman’s not much of a mob.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532" rel="nofollow ugc">http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-medical-report-sheds-light-injuries-trayvon/story?id=16353532</a></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t jump to judgement, let the jury decide</p>
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		By: Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;(With good reason,”Can you say Lynch Mob?”)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s a bit of an exaggeration.  I mean, this WAS basically a lynching except for method, but Zimmerman&#039;s not much of a mob.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The American way is to &lt;b&gt;be dragged kicking and screaming into even prosecuting despite clear evidence of a teenager being murdered&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

FIFY.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(With good reason,”Can you say Lynch Mob?”)</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s a bit of an exaggeration.  I mean, this WAS basically a lynching except for method, but Zimmerman&#8217;s not much of a mob.</p>
<blockquote><p>The American way is to <b>be dragged kicking and screaming into even prosecuting despite clear evidence of a teenager being murdered</b></p></blockquote>
<p>FIFY.</p>
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		By: Paul Hunter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15738</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 13:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zimmerman is being protected 24/7. Probably at tax payer expense.

(With good reason,&quot;Can you say Lynch Mob?&quot;)

The American way is to have a trial and let a jury decide!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimmerman is being protected 24/7. Probably at tax payer expense.</p>
<p>(With good reason,&#8221;Can you say Lynch Mob?&#8221;)</p>
<p>The American way is to have a trial and let a jury decide!</p>
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		By: Drivebyposter		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drivebyposter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 23:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[dan-0: Your own article says: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;According to April Kellogg of Fox’s Tampa Bay affiliate, even the NBPP might not pursue Zimmerman. She reports that the Sanford Police talked with members of the group yesterday, telling them “they had the investigation under control,” and that “handing out those wanted fliers was doing nothing but inciting violence,” at which point, Kellogg says, “the group backed off and stopped their protests.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;


So you can stop worrying about your hero. The NBPP backed off and stopped and the police, as far as I can tell, are satisfied and that and they pretty much seem to have done it just to for attention. On top of that, Zimmerman is being protected 24/7. Probably at tax payer expense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan-0: Your own article says: </p>
<blockquote><p>According to April Kellogg of Fox’s Tampa Bay affiliate, even the NBPP might not pursue Zimmerman. She reports that the Sanford Police talked with members of the group yesterday, telling them “they had the investigation under control,” and that “handing out those wanted fliers was doing nothing but inciting violence,” at which point, Kellogg says, “the group backed off and stopped their protests.” </p></blockquote>
<p>So you can stop worrying about your hero. The NBPP backed off and stopped and the police, as far as I can tell, are satisfied and that and they pretty much seem to have done it just to for attention. On top of that, Zimmerman is being protected 24/7. Probably at tax payer expense.</p>
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		By: gwen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin, good idea. I wonder if Mars and Skittles gave him their permission to use their trademarked product to make a profit. I think not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, good idea. I wonder if Mars and Skittles gave him their permission to use their trademarked product to make a profit. I think not.</p>
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		By: Martin		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15735</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a thought, since it sounds like the petition might not have all the effect we could want: I wonder how Mars, Inc. feels about their Skittles logo being used on something like this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought, since it sounds like the petition might not have all the effect we could want: I wonder how Mars, Inc. feels about their Skittles logo being used on something like this?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15734</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 17:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There probably is, though I&#039;m not sure if this is an example of that or not.  It is certainly a dickhead move, though.  

But I do want to re-stress: There is a difference between overreacting and wanting a gold blooded killer &quot;wanted dead or alive&quot; and overreacting and wanting an innocent victim who is already dead to be symbolically shot by countless hateful racists shits.  

(Not that you are saying there isn&#039;t, but I just want us all to keep that firmly in mind.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There probably is, though I&#8217;m not sure if this is an example of that or not.  It is certainly a dickhead move, though.  </p>
<p>But I do want to re-stress: There is a difference between overreacting and wanting a gold blooded killer &#8220;wanted dead or alive&#8221; and overreacting and wanting an innocent victim who is already dead to be symbolically shot by countless hateful racists shits.  </p>
<p>(Not that you are saying there isn&#8217;t, but I just want us all to keep that firmly in mind.)</p>
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		By: dan-o		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/13/targets-that-look-like-trayvon-martin/#comment-15733</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dan-o]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK. The bounty put on the head of Zimmerman saying Dead or Alive by the NEW Black Panthers. Is there any law against asking someone to kill another person for money? This is an honest question that deserves an answer. Please keep in mind I agreed the above target should not have been sold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. The bounty put on the head of Zimmerman saying Dead or Alive by the NEW Black Panthers. Is there any law against asking someone to kill another person for money? This is an honest question that deserves an answer. Please keep in mind I agreed the above target should not have been sold.</p>
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