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	Comments on: Romney&#8217;s Possible Anti-Gay Bullying and Obama&#8217;s Ideological Evolution: Rethinking it	</title>
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		By: justsomeguy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15619</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 16:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not interested in the monstrous things Mittens did when he was a child.  Most children will at one point or another do something pointlessly malicious, and usually to another child.  Some make a hobby of it, others don&#039;t.  Some grow out of it, others don&#039;t.

The point is, there&#039;s all sorts of stuff that Mittens has done as an *adult* that really ought to receive more attention than this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really not interested in the monstrous things Mittens did when he was a child.  Most children will at one point or another do something pointlessly malicious, and usually to another child.  Some make a hobby of it, others don&#8217;t.  Some grow out of it, others don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The point is, there&#8217;s all sorts of stuff that Mittens has done as an *adult* that really ought to receive more attention than this one.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15618</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 14:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Romney reminds me of a man I worked for briefly (escape plans were in the works within a few months of his hiring!)  He lied continually and was even confronted with it on more than one occasion. It seemed like it was such a long-held habit that he had no idea he was doing it.  And he had a very hard time relating to people as individuals.  He made us all take Myers-Briggs and that was his primary tool for working with us.  It was very frustrating and insulting.  Romney does the same crap -- serial liar and addresses everyone as if they were some kind of cliched type rather than as individuals.  His sociopathic tendencies would bring nothing good to this country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney reminds me of a man I worked for briefly (escape plans were in the works within a few months of his hiring!)  He lied continually and was even confronted with it on more than one occasion. It seemed like it was such a long-held habit that he had no idea he was doing it.  And he had a very hard time relating to people as individuals.  He made us all take Myers-Briggs and that was his primary tool for working with us.  It was very frustrating and insulting.  Romney does the same crap &#8212; serial liar and addresses everyone as if they were some kind of cliched type rather than as individuals.  His sociopathic tendencies would bring nothing good to this country.</p>
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		By: Trebuchet		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trebuchet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Romney’s lying. He remembers it. I’d be willing to bet he got off on the power he felt.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Mitt&#039;s been saying whatever he thought the current audience needed to hear for so long, he has no idea whether he&#039;s lying or not.  It&#039;s just automatic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p> Romney’s lying. He remembers it. I’d be willing to bet he got off on the power he felt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mitt&#8217;s been saying whatever he thought the current audience needed to hear for so long, he has no idea whether he&#8217;s lying or not.  It&#8217;s just automatic.</p>
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		By: Drivebyposter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 22:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Romney&#039;s lying. He remembers it. I&#039;d be willing to bet he got off on the power he felt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney&#8217;s lying. He remembers it. I&#8217;d be willing to bet he got off on the power he felt.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This piece is very much worth a read:

http://mobile.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/gay_marriage_obama_and_black_voters_why_he_is_able_to_endorse_it_in_a_way_a_white_democratic_president_couldn_t_.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece is very much worth a read:</p>
<p><a href="http://mobile.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/gay_marriage_obama_and_black_voters_why_he_is_able_to_endorse_it_in_a_way_a_white_democratic_president_couldn_t_.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mobile.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/gay_marriage_obama_and_black_voters_why_he_is_able_to_endorse_it_in_a_way_a_white_democratic_president_couldn_t_.html</a></p>
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		By: Aratina Cage		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aratina Cage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember that Fox video clip that the Fox News mole leaked where Romney seemed to be making fun of gay men by asking for a pink tie in an effeminate voice in front of Sean Hannity? Maybe that was a much bigger window into his true character than most people realized. Maybe he still targets effeminate men for bullying even today when he thinks no one is recording him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Fox video clip that the Fox News mole leaked where Romney seemed to be making fun of gay men by asking for a pink tie in an effeminate voice in front of Sean Hannity? Maybe that was a much bigger window into his true character than most people realized. Maybe he still targets effeminate men for bullying even today when he thinks no one is recording him.</p>
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		By: rikitiki		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15613</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rikitiki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sure, might have been a tip-off...OR...I&#039;m thinking the whole Vice-Pres -then- Pres pro-gay-equality thing was planned.  Especially Obama&#039;s &quot;It’s a States’ Rights Issue.&quot; statement. I think they expect (and I do also) that Tea-Party Republicans and other-anti-gay-Republican&#039;s at the state level will start foaming at the mouth even more between now and November, maybe trying to rush through state anti-gay laws and, in the process, show voters just how bigoted they are and get Republican losses both at the federal and state levels.  Brilliant!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, might have been a tip-off&#8230;OR&#8230;I&#8217;m thinking the whole Vice-Pres -then- Pres pro-gay-equality thing was planned.  Especially Obama&#8217;s &#8220;It’s a States’ Rights Issue.&#8221; statement. I think they expect (and I do also) that Tea-Party Republicans and other-anti-gay-Republican&#8217;s at the state level will start foaming at the mouth even more between now and November, maybe trying to rush through state anti-gay laws and, in the process, show voters just how bigoted they are and get Republican losses both at the federal and state levels.  Brilliant!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I disagree unless you can show me proof. &lt;/em&gt;

I don&#039;t have time to prove my conjectures.  Busy sorting out USB cables.

&lt;em&gt;Again, you’re assuming that Republican voters will be put off by a charge of gay-bashing.&lt;/em&gt;

I was not assuming that.  This is not a fight for Republican votes and never was.  I&#039;m sure you&#039;re correct that these revelations will help Romney among some of those who were already going to vote for him.  (more of a &quot;get out the vote&quot; strategy)


&lt;em&gt;Granted, he was just a kid at the time, but it still speaks to character. While I’m sure it’s possible for a bully to change, it’s probably not very common&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah, if five people remember it clearly and he has no recollection, then this is probably not something that he learned from. Or he&#039;s a liar. Or something.  

I&#039;m not sure how much I care about bad behavior in someone decades ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I disagree unless you can show me proof. </em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time to prove my conjectures.  Busy sorting out USB cables.</p>
<p><em>Again, you’re assuming that Republican voters will be put off by a charge of gay-bashing.</em></p>
<p>I was not assuming that.  This is not a fight for Republican votes and never was.  I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re correct that these revelations will help Romney among some of those who were already going to vote for him.  (more of a &#8220;get out the vote&#8221; strategy)</p>
<p><em>Granted, he was just a kid at the time, but it still speaks to character. While I’m sure it’s possible for a bully to change, it’s probably not very common</em></p>
<p>Yeah, if five people remember it clearly and he has no recollection, then this is probably not something that he learned from. Or he&#8217;s a liar. Or something.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how much I care about bad behavior in someone decades ago.</p>
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		By: greg1466		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 19:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Granted, he was just a kid at the time, but it still speaks to character.  While I&#039;m sure it&#039;s possible for a bully to change, it&#039;s probably not very common.  I&#039;d guess that the targets of his hostile take-overs, excuse me, leveraged buy-outs, would say he&#039;s &lt;strong&gt;still&lt;/strong&gt; a bully.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted, he was just a kid at the time, but it still speaks to character.  While I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s possible for a bully to change, it&#8217;s probably not very common.  I&#8217;d guess that the targets of his hostile take-overs, excuse me, leveraged buy-outs, would say he&#8217;s <strong>still</strong> a bully.</p>
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		By: John D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15609&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

It is not so obvious.  Quite a few (but not a majority) of Reps support gay marriage.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-legal-gay-marriage.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/10/romneys-ant-gay-bullying-and-obamas-ideological-evolution-rethinking-it/#comment-15609">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>It is not so obvious.  Quite a few (but not a majority) of Reps support gay marriage.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-legal-gay-marriage.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-legal-gay-marriage.aspx</a></p>
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