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		By: moralnihilist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15331</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moralnihilist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry in advance for the Godwin, but…

“Hey guys, I’ve just been appointed as the Executive Director of AIPAC. I’m a proud, life-long member of the National Socialist German Workers (NAZI) Party. Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. ‘Why is a Nazi working for Jews?’ You see, most Nazi’s actually LOVE Jews! According to these statistics I think I saw 18 years ago, over 70% of Nazis have NO PROBLEM WITH JEWS whatsoever! So, because not every single Nazi in the world has a problem with Jews, it is wrong to stereotype all Nazis as anti-semites based on the actions of the leaders, such as rounding up all Jews and shipping them off to gas chambers. That was just the actions of a few! You needn’t worry about me! How dare you assume I’m that way just because I donated $1,000 to Adolf Hitler’s political campaign!”

My favorite thing about Edwina in this interview is how when Greta asked her a question she didn&#039;t like, she just answered the question she wished Greta would have asked her instead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry in advance for the Godwin, but…</p>
<p>“Hey guys, I’ve just been appointed as the Executive Director of AIPAC. I’m a proud, life-long member of the National Socialist German Workers (NAZI) Party. Now, I know what some of you may be thinking. ‘Why is a Nazi working for Jews?’ You see, most Nazi’s actually LOVE Jews! According to these statistics I think I saw 18 years ago, over 70% of Nazis have NO PROBLEM WITH JEWS whatsoever! So, because not every single Nazi in the world has a problem with Jews, it is wrong to stereotype all Nazis as anti-semites based on the actions of the leaders, such as rounding up all Jews and shipping them off to gas chambers. That was just the actions of a few! You needn’t worry about me! How dare you assume I’m that way just because I donated $1,000 to Adolf Hitler’s political campaign!”</p>
<p>My favorite thing about Edwina in this interview is how when Greta asked her a question she didn&#8217;t like, she just answered the question she wished Greta would have asked her instead.</p>
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		By: Woo_Monster		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15330</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woo_Monster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 23:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ER
&lt;blockquote&gt;Often times, problems are arising from the conservative side and that’s one reason why it’s important to include both sides. The majority of the gubernatorial positions and state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Problems, arising from Republican governors, which she is &quot;embarrassed&quot; that she didn&#039;t donate money to.
ER from the interview with Greta, in response to a question about Rogers donating $1,000 to Rick Perry.
&lt;blockquote&gt;And I’m really embarrassed that I haven’t contributed money to every governor, every Republican governor&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Rogers was definitely part of the problem, and by white-washing the Republican party, she continues to be part of the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ER</p>
<blockquote><p>Often times, problems are arising from the conservative side and that’s one reason why it’s important to include both sides. The majority of the gubernatorial positions and state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Problems, arising from Republican governors, which she is &#8220;embarrassed&#8221; that she didn&#8217;t donate money to.<br />
ER from the interview with Greta, in response to a question about Rogers donating $1,000 to Rick Perry.</p>
<blockquote><p>And I’m really embarrassed that I haven’t contributed money to every governor, every Republican governor</p></blockquote>
<p>Rogers was definitely part of the problem, and by white-washing the Republican party, she continues to be part of the problem.</p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15329</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I agree that the GOP has gone off the rails over the past 20 or 30 years, but that doesn’t mean that I should have to support the Democratic party.&lt;/i&gt;

In other words, you know full well your party is dead wrong and bad for America, but you&#039;re not going to do squat to oppose them because you don&#039;t want to question your tribal loyalties.  How do you think they get away with going so far off the rails for so long?  You&#039;re part of the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I agree that the GOP has gone off the rails over the past 20 or 30 years, but that doesn’t mean that I should have to support the Democratic party.</i></p>
<p>In other words, you know full well your party is dead wrong and bad for America, but you&#8217;re not going to do squat to oppose them because you don&#8217;t want to question your tribal loyalties.  How do you think they get away with going so far off the rails for so long?  You&#8217;re part of the problem.</p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15328</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[tscf: you want doubletalk?  Here&#039;s an interview with Rogers where she lays the Republican-apologist doubletalk with a shovel:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/05/03/the-atheist-lobbys-new-executive-director-is-a-female-republican-strategist-who-used-to-work-for-george-w-bush/

Check out this quote:

&lt;i&gt;Often times, problems are arising from the conservative side and that’s one reason why it’s important to include both sides. The majority of the gubernatorial positions and state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.&lt;/i&gt;

She seems to be saying that since Republicans are so powerful, the secularist movement has to accomodate them.  Isn&#039;t she supposed to be lobbying the Republicans to accomodate secualarists, not vice versa?

This woman is a lifetime career Republican.  How far will she be willing to go to push a cause that many of her &quot;former&quot; colleagues not only disagree with, but hate with unholy hyperpartisan passion?  She&#039;s already looking for excuses NOT to be an effective lobbyist for the SCA.

I think there&#039;s about a 33% chance she&#039;ll drag her feet on anything that threatens to offend those easily-offended wingnuts whose influence she denies, until she gets fired; then she&#039;ll get a gig with Faux News crying about how mean and partisan and us PC-thug secularists are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tscf: you want doubletalk?  Here&#8217;s an interview with Rogers where she lays the Republican-apologist doubletalk with a shovel:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/05/03/the-atheist-lobbys-new-executive-director-is-a-female-republican-strategist-who-used-to-work-for-george-w-bush/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/05/03/the-atheist-lobbys-new-executive-director-is-a-female-republican-strategist-who-used-to-work-for-george-w-bush/</a></p>
<p>Check out this quote:</p>
<p><i>Often times, problems are arising from the conservative side and that’s one reason why it’s important to include both sides. The majority of the gubernatorial positions and state legislatures are controlled by Republicans.</i></p>
<p>She seems to be saying that since Republicans are so powerful, the secularist movement has to accomodate them.  Isn&#8217;t she supposed to be lobbying the Republicans to accomodate secualarists, not vice versa?</p>
<p>This woman is a lifetime career Republican.  How far will she be willing to go to push a cause that many of her &#8220;former&#8221; colleagues not only disagree with, but hate with unholy hyperpartisan passion?  She&#8217;s already looking for excuses NOT to be an effective lobbyist for the SCA.</p>
<p>I think there&#8217;s about a 33% chance she&#8217;ll drag her feet on anything that threatens to offend those easily-offended wingnuts whose influence she denies, until she gets fired; then she&#8217;ll get a gig with Faux News crying about how mean and partisan and us PC-thug secularists are.</p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...what I saw at first was just an unthinking knee jerk reaction to the announcement. It was automatically bad that a Republican was heading the SCA.&lt;/i&gt;

Either you&#039;re lying, or you weren&#039;t looking.  I did not see an &quot;unthinking knee jerk reaction,&quot; I saw copious references to past statements of hers -- and links to video of her making said statements -- that raised reasonable doubts about her character and priorities.

I really do think her future loyalty is uncertain; and my doubts are exacerbated by her comments about how the secular movement allegedly needs to be more inclusive of Republicans (thus, presumably, making it less liberal or progressive).  Will she relly be lobbying Republicans for secular causes?  Or will she be lobbying for more Republican influence in the secular movement?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;what I saw at first was just an unthinking knee jerk reaction to the announcement. It was automatically bad that a Republican was heading the SCA.</i></p>
<p>Either you&#8217;re lying, or you weren&#8217;t looking.  I did not see an &#8220;unthinking knee jerk reaction,&#8221; I saw copious references to past statements of hers &#8212; and links to video of her making said statements &#8212; that raised reasonable doubts about her character and priorities.</p>
<p>I really do think her future loyalty is uncertain; and my doubts are exacerbated by her comments about how the secular movement allegedly needs to be more inclusive of Republicans (thus, presumably, making it less liberal or progressive).  Will she relly be lobbying Republicans for secular causes?  Or will she be lobbying for more Republican influence in the secular movement?</p>
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		By: KathyO		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KathyO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hard to see how Rogers will be effective at pushing the secular agenda when she seems to think that things are already fine. Apparently, the GOP is not anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-separation of church and state. Great! Mission accomplished!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to see how Rogers will be effective at pushing the secular agenda when she seems to think that things are already fine. Apparently, the GOP is not anti-gay, anti-choice and anti-separation of church and state. Great! Mission accomplished!</p>
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		By: evilDoug		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[evilDoug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 22:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She seems to just make stuff up. I&#039;m not sure if that is pro or con for a lobbyist. Personally, I would regard it as clearly marking her as untrustworthy.

I&#039;m with Crip Dyke regarding the inability to evaluate evidence. Anyone who actually believes that party policy reflects reality is sadly disconnected from the latter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She seems to just make stuff up. I&#8217;m not sure if that is pro or con for a lobbyist. Personally, I would regard it as clearly marking her as untrustworthy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Crip Dyke regarding the inability to evaluate evidence. Anyone who actually believes that party policy reflects reality is sadly disconnected from the latter.</p>
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		By: Setar, too lazy to log in on his blackberry		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Setar, too lazy to log in on his blackberry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kyleharris, the evidence shows that the problem is endemic to the Republicans and Rogers is not bucking this trend, merely engaging in the same denial that many self proclaimed &quot;centrists&quot; have engaged in when defending her on FTB.

Take your &quot;centrist&quot; FUD somewhere else. Your conservatism is showing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyleharris, the evidence shows that the problem is endemic to the Republicans and Rogers is not bucking this trend, merely engaging in the same denial that many self proclaimed &#8220;centrists&#8221; have engaged in when defending her on FTB.</p>
<p>Take your &#8220;centrist&#8221; FUD somewhere else. Your conservatism is showing.</p>
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		By: Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Azkyroth, Former Growing Toaster Oven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, really.  I would be much more comfortable with this if she&#039;d just own the fuck up to what the repigs stand for and what she fought for when she was one of them.  Her attempts to whitewash their positions are setting off klaxons in my head.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, really.  I would be much more comfortable with this if she&#8217;d just own the fuck up to what the repigs stand for and what she fought for when she was one of them.  Her attempts to whitewash their positions are setting off klaxons in my head.</p>
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		By: Illuminata, Genie in the Beer Bottle		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/07/edwina-rogers-and-the-secular-coalition-of-america/#comment-15322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Illuminata, Genie in the Beer Bottle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If, as this interview suggestions, she doesn&#039;t have the slightest clue about the realities of the current repub party, or she really badly lies about them, there&#039;s no way to trust her. There&#039;s no way to think she&#039;d be good at this job. 

She spent too much time around unquestioning syccophants.

She should have stayed among the sheep, because the wolves don&#039;t go hungry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, as this interview suggestions, she doesn&#8217;t have the slightest clue about the realities of the current repub party, or she really badly lies about them, there&#8217;s no way to trust her. There&#8217;s no way to think she&#8217;d be good at this job. </p>
<p>She spent too much time around unquestioning syccophants.</p>
<p>She should have stayed among the sheep, because the wolves don&#8217;t go hungry.</p>
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