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		By: Marnie Vacca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marnie Vacca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2018 14:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I went over this website   and I think  you have a lot of  great  info  ,  saved to bookmarks  (:.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went over this website   and I think  you have a lot of  great  info  ,  saved to bookmarks  (:.</p>
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		By: Erik		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/02/he-should-have-been-wearing-a-1/#comment-492725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm.  This story sounds a bit contrived, but apart from that, a helmet is not a guarantee of anything. Not that a helmet wouldn&#039;t have helped, but if the driver had yielded right of way like she should have, nobody would have been hurt at all.

It&#039;s important to recognize two things:
a) Because a concussion is the result of the bran impacting the inside of the skull, a helmet can never prevent it.
b) If I run into a person with my car, they&#039;re going to be messed up. This is why I had to pass tests in order to prove I was capable of operating my vehicle safely. The safety of everyone who may pass in front of my car is my responsibility.

These are facts and there is no way around them. That&#039;s why they&#039;re called &quot;facts&quot;.  Nowhere is it written that I will be absolved of all responsibility if I kill someone who is not wearing a helmet.

Riding a bike with no helmet is hardly a death sentence. If it was, the Netherlands would be pretty much wiped out tomorrow. And there&#039;s no way China would account for 1/4 of the world&#039;s population.

I don&#039;t know what the total is now, but as of 23 million rides on US bike-share systems, no bike share rider has died. Not a single one:
http://news.discovery.com/earth/23-million-rides-later-no-us-bike-share-deaths-140813.htm

The most successful bike share systems do not require helmets, and I don&#039;t know anybody who walks around with a helmet &quot;just in case&quot; they might grab a Citi-Bike.  Seattle and Sydney bike share systems, for example, are not seeing the use they had hoped for.  They only thing they have in common that no successful system is subject to, is helmet laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.  This story sounds a bit contrived, but apart from that, a helmet is not a guarantee of anything. Not that a helmet wouldn&#8217;t have helped, but if the driver had yielded right of way like she should have, nobody would have been hurt at all.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to recognize two things:<br />
a) Because a concussion is the result of the bran impacting the inside of the skull, a helmet can never prevent it.<br />
b) If I run into a person with my car, they&#8217;re going to be messed up. This is why I had to pass tests in order to prove I was capable of operating my vehicle safely. The safety of everyone who may pass in front of my car is my responsibility.</p>
<p>These are facts and there is no way around them. That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re called &#8220;facts&#8221;.  Nowhere is it written that I will be absolved of all responsibility if I kill someone who is not wearing a helmet.</p>
<p>Riding a bike with no helmet is hardly a death sentence. If it was, the Netherlands would be pretty much wiped out tomorrow. And there&#8217;s no way China would account for 1/4 of the world&#8217;s population.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the total is now, but as of 23 million rides on US bike-share systems, no bike share rider has died. Not a single one:<br />
<a href="http://news.discovery.com/earth/23-million-rides-later-no-us-bike-share-deaths-140813.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://news.discovery.com/earth/23-million-rides-later-no-us-bike-share-deaths-140813.htm</a></p>
<p>The most successful bike share systems do not require helmets, and I don&#8217;t know anybody who walks around with a helmet &#8220;just in case&#8221; they might grab a Citi-Bike.  Seattle and Sydney bike share systems, for example, are not seeing the use they had hoped for.  They only thing they have in common that no successful system is subject to, is helmet laws.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas, I call BS.  Turn &quot;there are studies&quot; into citations to valid peer reviewed research that actually says what you say it says and people might begin to take your suggestion seriously.  The readers of this blog are hard core skeptics. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I call BS.  Turn &#8220;there are studies&#8221; into citations to valid peer reviewed research that actually says what you say it says and people might begin to take your suggestion seriously.  The readers of this blog are hard core skeptics. </p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 09:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are studies showing that laws requiring helmets are bad for public health. The exercise you get by switching from a car to bike is a great benefit for your health and requiring helmets will discourage some people from biking. This effect is larger than the health benefit from forcing people to use helmets. It&#039;s easy to misinterpret the statistics, though, since if you implement a helmet law the reduction in bikers will lead to fewer accidents so it will look like a great success.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are studies showing that laws requiring helmets are bad for public health. The exercise you get by switching from a car to bike is a great benefit for your health and requiring helmets will discourage some people from biking. This effect is larger than the health benefit from forcing people to use helmets. It&#8217;s easy to misinterpret the statistics, though, since if you implement a helmet law the reduction in bikers will lead to fewer accidents so it will look like a great success.</p>
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		By: Jesse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 18:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to say I have mixed feelings about (bicycle) helmet laws, and I will say up front that I know it isn&#039;t completely logical.

Here&#039;s the thing: I learned to ride as a kid a long time ago and bike helmets were at that point unknown unless you were a bike racer -- and even then, I don&#039;t think they were that common (this is the 1970s).

And since nothing untoward happened to me in all those years (up to when I was a teenager) in riding of course, sometimes giving helmets to kids looks a little like overkill. I fell of my bike any number of times -- and learned to be more careful afterwards.  Maybe that&#039;s part of the problem with the resistance to helmet laws -- people know it isn&#039;t logical, but resist anyway, and one reason might be that biking is an activity we associate with childhood. That is, a 5-year-old isn&#039;t ever going to be going that fast, they can only fall so far, so the chances of serious injury are less from the stuff they do and more from other people around them like careless drivers.

But logically I know that adults are a somewhat different matter and that helmets are an unambiguously good idea. Certainly I saw more people wearing them in bike-heavy San Francisco when I moved there in the early 90s. And I see people with them now.

So while I am on board with the head injury issue, I find myself resisting wearing a helmet, even though I know it is the right thing to do.

By the way, I have been in a vehicle accident where I was seriously injured (I was run over by a drunken motorcyclist) -- so I am much more supportive of drunk driving laws, and liability for bartenders, so maybe it&#039;s all about what you experience and relate to your own life. Like, I don&#039;t resist seat belt laws at all.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I have mixed feelings about (bicycle) helmet laws, and I will say up front that I know it isn&#8217;t completely logical.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing: I learned to ride as a kid a long time ago and bike helmets were at that point unknown unless you were a bike racer &#8212; and even then, I don&#8217;t think they were that common (this is the 1970s).</p>
<p>And since nothing untoward happened to me in all those years (up to when I was a teenager) in riding of course, sometimes giving helmets to kids looks a little like overkill. I fell of my bike any number of times &#8212; and learned to be more careful afterwards.  Maybe that&#8217;s part of the problem with the resistance to helmet laws &#8212; people know it isn&#8217;t logical, but resist anyway, and one reason might be that biking is an activity we associate with childhood. That is, a 5-year-old isn&#8217;t ever going to be going that fast, they can only fall so far, so the chances of serious injury are less from the stuff they do and more from other people around them like careless drivers.</p>
<p>But logically I know that adults are a somewhat different matter and that helmets are an unambiguously good idea. Certainly I saw more people wearing them in bike-heavy San Francisco when I moved there in the early 90s. And I see people with them now.</p>
<p>So while I am on board with the head injury issue, I find myself resisting wearing a helmet, even though I know it is the right thing to do.</p>
<p>By the way, I have been in a vehicle accident where I was seriously injured (I was run over by a drunken motorcyclist) &#8212; so I am much more supportive of drunk driving laws, and liability for bartenders, so maybe it&#8217;s all about what you experience and relate to your own life. Like, I don&#8217;t resist seat belt laws at all.</p>
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		By: marktime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marktime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 13:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[But, but.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/may/04/bi-picture-cycling-copenhagen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, but&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/may/04/bi-picture-cycling-copenhagen" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/may/04/bi-picture-cycling-copenhagen</a></p>
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		By: Comrade Carter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Comrade Carter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 10:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jesus, I remember this incident.

It was a horrible day, during (what was) a wonderful time in Milwaukee.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, I remember this incident.</p>
<p>It was a horrible day, during (what was) a wonderful time in Milwaukee.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/05/02/he-should-have-been-wearing-a-1/#comment-492719</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 06:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Where do you get your figures from? The professional helmet deniers associations?&quot;

From the A&amp;E reports of the NHS.

Where do you get your figures from? Your anus?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where do you get your figures from? The professional helmet deniers associations?&#8221;</p>
<p>From the A&#038;E reports of the NHS.</p>
<p>Where do you get your figures from? Your anus?</p>
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		By: Jim Thomerson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Thomerson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 21:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My best bike accident was when I was a grad student at Texas Tech.  I had a part time janitorial job which I did at night.  I was riding my bicycle racing for home, no light, down an unlighted street.  I rode down the middle of the street so as not to hit parked cars, etc.  I heard a dog bark and turned to look in that direction.  In doing so. I deviated from the center of the road and went splat into the rear of a parked station wagon.  When the noise died down, I picked up my bike and hoofed it on down the road, wanting to clear the scene before anyone came out to see what the noise was.  I left my bike in a friend&#039;s yard and called my wife from a pay phone.  My bike was destroyed, and I was black and blue.  A few days later, new bike, and daytime, I rode down the road.  The station wagon was there, with the imprint of my handlebars on the back.  I think if it had been a regular car, I would have ended up through the back window.  This was about 1959, and bike helmets had not yet been invented.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best bike accident was when I was a grad student at Texas Tech.  I had a part time janitorial job which I did at night.  I was riding my bicycle racing for home, no light, down an unlighted street.  I rode down the middle of the street so as not to hit parked cars, etc.  I heard a dog bark and turned to look in that direction.  In doing so. I deviated from the center of the road and went splat into the rear of a parked station wagon.  When the noise died down, I picked up my bike and hoofed it on down the road, wanting to clear the scene before anyone came out to see what the noise was.  I left my bike in a friend&#8217;s yard and called my wife from a pay phone.  My bike was destroyed, and I was black and blue.  A few days later, new bike, and daytime, I rode down the road.  The station wagon was there, with the imprint of my handlebars on the back.  I think if it had been a regular car, I would have ended up through the back window.  This was about 1959, and bike helmets had not yet been invented.</p>
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		By: Rick Wayne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Wayne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is an essay I wrote after an accident. Not to sound, oh, biased or anything, but it&#039;s titled &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://lupus-outof-redbird.blogspot.com/2007/10/sermon-wear-your-freakin-bike-helmets.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wear Your Freakin&#039; Bike Helmets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I offer it here in the hope that it might amuse, but also to attempt to make the point that your intuition, informed by who-knows-how-many-years you&#039;ve ridden without a helmet, will lead you to &lt;i&gt;completely erroneous&lt;/i&gt; risk-benefit choices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s easy to assume that it won&#039;t happen to you, because it never has. And frankly, it probably never will (&quot;probably&quot; used here in the strict technical sense of &quot;greater than 50% probability&quot;).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But pilots long ago learned this the hard way: &quot;Trust the math, not your gut feel&quot; is written in the blood from a thousand crashes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you bet on the come, stake everything on the proposition that your winning streak means you&#039;ll never roll craps, your expected value is negative. That is, if you assign much value to breathing and non-drooling, ambulatory activities.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an essay I wrote after an accident. Not to sound, oh, biased or anything, but it&#8217;s titled <i><a href="http://lupus-outof-redbird.blogspot.com/2007/10/sermon-wear-your-freakin-bike-helmets.html" rel="nofollow">Wear Your Freakin&#8217; Bike Helmets</a></i>.</p>
<p>I offer it here in the hope that it might amuse, but also to attempt to make the point that your intuition, informed by who-knows-how-many-years you&#8217;ve ridden without a helmet, will lead you to <i>completely erroneous</i> risk-benefit choices.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to assume that it won&#8217;t happen to you, because it never has. And frankly, it probably never will (&#8220;probably&#8221; used here in the strict technical sense of &#8220;greater than 50% probability&#8221;).</p>
<p>But pilots long ago learned this the hard way: &#8220;Trust the math, not your gut feel&#8221; is written in the blood from a thousand crashes.</p>
<p>If you bet on the come, stake everything on the proposition that your winning streak means you&#8217;ll never roll craps, your expected value is negative. That is, if you assign much value to breathing and non-drooling, ambulatory activities.</p>
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