Comments on: Turns out the "war on science" is a fabrication of the enemy! https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/ Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:01:35 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: NJ https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492149 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 02:01:35 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492149 “Chauncey Gardiner” aka Rob Hood the undertreated mentally ill denizen of SB @ 16:

As it stands communists,socialists,secular oppressives, fake scientists, and evil politicians, and islamic terrorists are all working together to form a world government.

At least you are sticking with an original ‘nym for a while now, Rob. The “Being There” character’s posts smelled a bit like you, but I wasn’t certain until you launched into your old routines.

As for me I plan to be in the rapture

Too bad that Blondie beat you to it by a few years…

]]> By: Chauncey Gardiner https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492148 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:57:46 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492148 @ Lorax

Peer reviewed papers are only needed when dealing with liberals who constantly ask for peer reviewed literature whenever they can no longer tolerate the topic at hand.

Religion/faith needs no peer reviewed papers, hence the word FAITH. Theocratic world government? Are you referring to the global caliphate being constructed by radical islamists as we speak or are you referring to when Jesus comes back and rule the world for all eternity? Please specify which scenario you refer to.

As it stands communists,socialists,secular oppressives, fake scientists, and evil politicians, and islamic terrorists are all working together to form a world government. Little do the rest know that once formed the Islamics will kill the rest and take over the world and once man will rule all. I encourage you to read Revelation and forsee your doom. As for me I plan to be in the rapture and skip the beheadings by the antiChrist and his islamic minions.

]]> By: Dave https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492147 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:58:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492147 At least Chauncey has had the courtesy of removing all doubt of their complete ignorance of the scientific method.

]]> By: Darth_Loki https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492146 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:11:09 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492146 Sorry I should have made that the 1% War on Science. I am a bit slow to get the point sometimes. So the Republicans can’t be singled out for staring the War on Science. The Republicans had 1% agent provocateurs mixed in with the Republican crowd who were throwing the Molotov’s at science.

If we can get the Republicans to see the agent provocateurs among them, it could make for some interesting mob dynamics.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492145 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:53:08 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492145 Chauncey, to be honest, I have no idea. It is not my field of expertise.

]]> By: Lorax https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492144 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:38:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492144 @Chauncey ‘livin’ under a bridge’ Gardiner

You said:
Realâ?¢ scientists acknowlege nature as God’s artwork.
Realâ?¢ Christains believe in a 6 day creation.

So,
Where is your peer reviewed papers to prove that God popped the universe, earth, and all life on it into existance in 6 days? Where is your peer reviewed papers to prove that Christianity is NOT a scam designed to divert attention away from a theocratic world government organization?

Since Im sure Greg is busy, Ill answer your questions, after you answer mine.

]]> By: Darth_Loki https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492143 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:37:05 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492143 When I was younger. I thought that everybody thought like me. This is not just an intellectual comparison, but also a moral one. In business there are many shades of gray, in some businesses, as you rise higher, you move into a culture that treats the rest of society like barbarians at the gate, people to toss boiling oil on.

Big buisness doesn’t have enough money to buy off everbody. It does have enough money to help like minded individuals rise up through the bureaucratic ranks, (of the so-called watch dog agencies.) It can afford to buy Academic chairs and influence the direction of the arguments. It can pay for academic conferences and then limit whose views are heard. The Kochs bought off WGBH Nova.

This did not happen overnight, where are the asbestos companies? Many early 1% (along with a lot of major industries) were witnesses to the demise of the asbestos companies. Many of them took away: not to do any wrong from the experience, but a few took away a different message.

They would never let any government organization have enough power to force them to do anything. Science provides the facts that will convict them, or ruin their plans. Science is the Carthage to businesses Rome.

The Republican War on Science began before most of you were born. We have to unwind over 30 years of corruption.

If flames shooting out of a faucet isn’t damning evidence, what is?

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492142 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:14:58 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492142 Where is your peer reviewed papers to prove that matter popped into existance without the aid of an intelligent designer?

I accept this proposition as long as I get to personally decide what the Intelligent Designer is. (And yes, really, it’s a proper name so please give The Designer the respect of capitalizing the first letter of each word).

I have decided that the intelligent designer is a Pony.

]]> By: Marion Delgado https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492141 Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492141 It’s a sign of progress that even 10 years ago the above comment would not be an obvious joke, but would be a serious comment and very butthurt if not taken seriously, etc.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492140 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 14:53:42 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/04/03/turns-out-the-war-on-science-i/#comment-492140 JG: I think it is unsafe to assume that a person “wanting a science debate” necessarily wants the debate to include only science and to exclude wedge-based anti-science. But so what? Let’s get people to the table where we can openly discuss what is at issue, in a different format than the back room with the sharp well paid lobbyists, some string, and a dim elected official with a nice suit. Then we can decide what “science” and “debate” mean at a finer level. The point is to make those decisions in the glaring hot light of “the whole world is watching” as opposed to the gray foggy light of “what do we tell people so they leave our clients alone.”

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