Comments on: Saints Need to Turn In Their Superbowl Rings https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/ Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:13:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Lee https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14178 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:13:25 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14178 The more time I have to think about it, the more I disagree with myself from yesterday, at least to a degree. While they didn’t get the most flags this year, or inflict the most injuries, the intent to injure is pretty unforgiveable. Suspensions and fines are deserved, but not revocation of super bowl rings, especially for uninvolved players. We will see what happens to the players soon and I bet it is severe.

]]> By: slc1 https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14177 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:13:08 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14177 Re Greg Laden @ #11

The delivery sack is a tackle or knockdown of the quarterback after he has released the ball. I first heard this term used by former Deadskin coach George Allen.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14176 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 15:00:37 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14176 (… I mean, I know what it is in biology, but …)

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14175 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:33:21 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14175 What is a delivery sack exactly?

]]> By: slc1 https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14174 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14174 The answer to the problem of the delivery sack, which is what this is, is very simple. Give the quarterback the same protection as is given punters and place kickers, namely outlaw the delivery sack and assess a 15 yard penalty for violations. That will solve this particular problem.

]]> By: homeless2009 https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14173 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:43:38 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14173 As a New Orleans native and lifelong Saints fan, I agree with this. What they did was wrong on all counts. I worry that the Saints players will now be subject to uncompensated attempts at injury as retaliation.

]]> By: tubi https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14172 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 03:48:26 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14172 As I noted above, I don’t think it’s just what they did, but how they lied about it when initially confronted and the cavalier disrespect for the commissioner and the league going back to 2010.

Todd Bertuzzi assaulted a guy on the ice, once, in the passion of the moment, as far as I know was not paid or otherwise given incentive to do it, and got suspended indefinitely. He was reinstated after about a year and a half. He was also vilified throughout the NHL and was tried in civil court, although the charges were dismissed.

Saints players went out every Sunday trying to injure someone, irrespective of the game situation, got paid extra for it. This was not only condoned but encouraged and perhaps even funded by the coaching staff. When they were asked about they said it wasn’t happening, and even if it were, they promised, pinkie-swear, never to do it again. And then went out and did it again for two more years.

So why would these suspensions be reduced? Why should they be? How many Saints players should be suspended?

]]> By: Trebuchet https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14171 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:33:53 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14171 I’ve long thought that players in any sport who injure an opponent while committing a blatant foul should be suspended for one game longer than the injured player is out. If it’s a career-ending injury, it ends both careers. That doesn’t exclude the possibility of criminal prosecution, of course.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14170 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:27:17 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14170 Lee, everyone knew about this weeks ago. What they did was not only immoral but also illegal. It is unlawful in every state ypto intentionally injure someone. To do it for money is also illegal. I look forward to the grand jury probes

]]> By: Lee https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/03/21/saints-need-to-turn-in-their-superbowl-rings/#comment-14169 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:59:44 +0000 http://freethoughtblogs.com/xblog/?p=2736#comment-14169 @Greg As a Saints fan I have known about this when it first became news weeks ago. The suspensions were all that is new today. Is what they did shameful? Immoral? Disgraceful? Yes to all of the above, but it isn’t against the rules. In my opinion todays suspensions were over the top (and will probably be reduced upon appeal) let alone taking away a well-earned championship.

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