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	Comments on: Peter Gleick, The Heartland Revelations and Situational Journalism	</title>
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		By: Hassan Shor		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-35634</link>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate change is a significant and lasting change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns over periods ranging from decades to millions of years. It may be a change in average weather conditions, or in the distribution of weather around the average conditions (i.e., more or fewer extreme weather events). Climate change is caused by factors that include oceanic processes (such as oceanic circulation), biotic processes, variations in solar radiation received by Earth, plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions, and human-induced alterations of the natural world.*</p>
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		By: Ed Darrell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-26676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Darrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a bit of disclosure -- while technical not one right now, I am a trained professional journalist, with a degree in the art, and was for several decades a member of the Society of Professional Journalists.  I&#039;ve written some minor award-winning stories way back in the past.  I&#039;ve been intimately involved in the securing and leaking of documents to keep identities of informants unknown, and while staffing Congress, I worked closely with Senate investigators in several areas producing what I consider great public service.

The first rule of journalism, really, is &quot;be accurate.&quot;  Joseph Pulitzer once, or a thousand times, said famously, &quot;Accuracy!  Accuracy!  Accuracy!&quot;  The second rule of journalism is &quot;get the story.&quot;

There are other rules.  There are ethical considerations, though nothing quite so involved as the legal professional canons lawyers deal with.  That is not to say journalists are any less ethical.

Gleick was accurate, and he got the story.  

If a rule of journalism were &quot;be sure you don&#039;t tick anyone off,&quot; I&#039;d say he failed.  

Just sayin&#039;, I&#039;m not sure &quot;crappy journalist&quot; applies, or is accurate.  

Nice write up, though, with lots of explanation.  Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a bit of disclosure &#8212; while technical not one right now, I am a trained professional journalist, with a degree in the art, and was for several decades a member of the Society of Professional Journalists.  I&#8217;ve written some minor award-winning stories way back in the past.  I&#8217;ve been intimately involved in the securing and leaking of documents to keep identities of informants unknown, and while staffing Congress, I worked closely with Senate investigators in several areas producing what I consider great public service.</p>
<p>The first rule of journalism, really, is &#8220;be accurate.&#8221;  Joseph Pulitzer once, or a thousand times, said famously, &#8220;Accuracy!  Accuracy!  Accuracy!&#8221;  The second rule of journalism is &#8220;get the story.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are other rules.  There are ethical considerations, though nothing quite so involved as the legal professional canons lawyers deal with.  That is not to say journalists are any less ethical.</p>
<p>Gleick was accurate, and he got the story.  </p>
<p>If a rule of journalism were &#8220;be sure you don&#8217;t tick anyone off,&#8221; I&#8217;d say he failed.  </p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217;, I&#8217;m not sure &#8220;crappy journalist&#8221; applies, or is accurate.  </p>
<p>Nice write up, though, with lots of explanation.  Thanks.</p>
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		By: pet stain clean up		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-26645</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pet stain clean up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First of all numerous thanks for composing this type of apparent report about this matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all numerous thanks for composing this type of apparent report about this matter.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, but before you go, did you used to live in Pennsylvania?]]></description>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13434</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anthony, first you make a specific claim that a colleagueof mine is lying, and the basis of your claim is that someone else, who has strong and opposing interests in this dispute, said so very strongly.  Now, you are giving me a reading assignment.

You are dismissed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, first you make a specific claim that a colleagueof mine is lying, and the basis of your claim is that someone else, who has strong and opposing interests in this dispute, said so very strongly.  Now, you are giving me a reading assignment.</p>
<p>You are dismissed.</p>
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		By: Anthony		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know what Greg, that&#039;s a simpleton&#039;s caricature of my comments.  I don&#039;t care about sounding correct when I speak, nor about cleverly writing such that I influence opinions by it.  

Your comment back to me is nothing more than an indicment of what you wrote.  Look again at the comments you incited from &quot;daedalus2u&quot; and &quot;Rich S&quot;. You&#039;re obviously checking responses to your article; how can you legitimately believe that those comments do not deserve a moderating reply?...yet, mine do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what Greg, that&#8217;s a simpleton&#8217;s caricature of my comments.  I don&#8217;t care about sounding correct when I speak, nor about cleverly writing such that I influence opinions by it.  </p>
<p>Your comment back to me is nothing more than an indicment of what you wrote.  Look again at the comments you incited from &#8220;daedalus2u&#8221; and &#8220;Rich S&#8221;. You&#8217;re obviously checking responses to your article; how can you legitimately believe that those comments do not deserve a moderating reply?&#8230;yet, mine do?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice job.  If you say it hard enough it will sound like the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job.  If you say it hard enough it will sound like the truth.</p>
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		By: Anthony		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just listened to a live radio interview with Joe Bast.  He directly and overtly stated that Peter Gleick created a near identical email address to that of one of its board members, and then began collecting board documentation over a 2 week period.  

He also directly stated that the Gleick or a colleague forged the critical path &quot;strategy memo&quot; after illegally obtaining all of the board documentation data.  Mr. Bast stated his opinion that the forged memo was created following the realization by Gleick that there was no smoking gun data or documentation in what he illegally obtained by fraud.

Your scenarios &quot;A&quot; and &quot;B&quot; aren&#039;t even quality ancillary scenarios, much less being quality direct illustrations.  Your &quot;Scenario A&quot; should have been an investigative journalist working with an inside corporate source, and as a result of obtaining data, wins a Pulitzer.  Your &quot;Scenario B&quot; should be what Gleick did...a journalist fakes a deceptively similar email address to a corporate insider, claims to be a corporate insider, requests documentation as a corporate insider, and as a result of NOT finding any damning information, causes a ridiculous forgery to be propounded as an authentic corporate document.

Gleick is a criminal, and I hope he gets prosecuted for corporate espionage.  

Way to go in trying to coin new vernacular - &quot;science denialism&quot;, and bringing christians, as well as other subscribers to the belief in intelligent design (&quot;creationists&quot;) into the mix.  One can never prove nor deny by scientific method an evolutionary origin of species.  This is also true for the theories of the origin of the universe.  Just give it a rest and stick to your topic of the day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just listened to a live radio interview with Joe Bast.  He directly and overtly stated that Peter Gleick created a near identical email address to that of one of its board members, and then began collecting board documentation over a 2 week period.  </p>
<p>He also directly stated that the Gleick or a colleague forged the critical path &#8220;strategy memo&#8221; after illegally obtaining all of the board documentation data.  Mr. Bast stated his opinion that the forged memo was created following the realization by Gleick that there was no smoking gun data or documentation in what he illegally obtained by fraud.</p>
<p>Your scenarios &#8220;A&#8221; and &#8220;B&#8221; aren&#8217;t even quality ancillary scenarios, much less being quality direct illustrations.  Your &#8220;Scenario A&#8221; should have been an investigative journalist working with an inside corporate source, and as a result of obtaining data, wins a Pulitzer.  Your &#8220;Scenario B&#8221; should be what Gleick did&#8230;a journalist fakes a deceptively similar email address to a corporate insider, claims to be a corporate insider, requests documentation as a corporate insider, and as a result of NOT finding any damning information, causes a ridiculous forgery to be propounded as an authentic corporate document.</p>
<p>Gleick is a criminal, and I hope he gets prosecuted for corporate espionage.  </p>
<p>Way to go in trying to coin new vernacular &#8211; &#8220;science denialism&#8221;, and bringing christians, as well as other subscribers to the belief in intelligent design (&#8220;creationists&#8221;) into the mix.  One can never prove nor deny by scientific method an evolutionary origin of species.  This is also true for the theories of the origin of the universe.  Just give it a rest and stick to your topic of the day.</p>
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		By: Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; The Seduction of Narrative		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13430</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Collide-a-scape &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Collide-a-scape &#62;&#62; The Seduction of Narrative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] one take home lesson (which apologists for Peter Gleick&#8217;s recent deceit  seem tone deaf to) for those who champion any [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] one take home lesson (which apologists for Peter Gleick&#8217;s recent deceit  seem tone deaf to) for those who champion any [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Emma Le Bon		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/21/peter-gleick-the-heartland-revelations-and-situational-journalism/#comment-13429</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma Le Bon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t get me wrong I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion, I don&#039;t think a &#039;Climategate&#039; film staring Robert Redford as Gleick is to hit our movie screens any time soon! I just think that blog after blog, paper after paper is now talking about this very, &#039;ethical&#039; debate rather than climate change itself. There is more discussion about Gleick being a hero or a villain over any discussions surrounding Climate Change. 

Gleick isn&#039;t a journalist, he&#039;s a scientist, here is where the problem arises. Scientists are renowned for being logical, transparent and rigorous. So if a tabloid journalist uncovered this story we would now be discussing Climate change and not the journalist and their actions.

I read an article a few back that discussed how our arrogance towards Climate change is one we must change:

http://william-knight.blogs.com/intelligenthorror/2011/12/the-horror-of-arrogance-will-kill-again-climate-change.html

Personally I&#039;d have a fully bearded Joaquin Phoneix playing Gleick but hey-ho!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong I think the whole thing has been blown out of proportion, I don&#8217;t think a &#8216;Climategate&#8217; film staring Robert Redford as Gleick is to hit our movie screens any time soon! I just think that blog after blog, paper after paper is now talking about this very, &#8216;ethical&#8217; debate rather than climate change itself. There is more discussion about Gleick being a hero or a villain over any discussions surrounding Climate Change. </p>
<p>Gleick isn&#8217;t a journalist, he&#8217;s a scientist, here is where the problem arises. Scientists are renowned for being logical, transparent and rigorous. So if a tabloid journalist uncovered this story we would now be discussing Climate change and not the journalist and their actions.</p>
<p>I read an article a few back that discussed how our arrogance towards Climate change is one we must change:</p>
<p><a href="http://william-knight.blogs.com/intelligenthorror/2011/12/the-horror-of-arrogance-will-kill-again-climate-change.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://william-knight.blogs.com/intelligenthorror/2011/12/the-horror-of-arrogance-will-kill-again-climate-change.html</a></p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;d have a fully bearded Joaquin Phoneix playing Gleick but hey-ho!</p>
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