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		By: Trebuchet		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/03/komen-caves-but-so-what/#comment-20091</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, your last sentence omitted a couple of words, causing it to be a bit garbled (what I think you meant in &lt;b&gt;bold&lt;/b&gt;):

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Komen must always, from &lt;b&gt;now&lt;/b&gt; on, &lt;b&gt;be&lt;/b&gt; a word associated with Fundy Right Wing Hate...&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Komen has put itself in a hole; it&#039;s a lose-lose for them from here on.  They&#039;re not going to get back the support they lost by the dumb move and by backing down they&#039;ll gain the hatred of the religious right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, your last sentence omitted a couple of words, causing it to be a bit garbled (what I think you meant in <b>bold</b>):</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> Komen must always, from <b>now</b> on, <b>be</b> a word associated with Fundy Right Wing Hate&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Komen has put itself in a hole; it&#8217;s a lose-lose for them from here on.  They&#8217;re not going to get back the support they lost by the dumb move and by backing down they&#8217;ll gain the hatred of the religious right.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Atheist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/03/komen-caves-but-so-what/#comment-20090</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like the American Cancer Society (that discriminated against atheists), even an unlikely full reversal of this problem still wouldn&#039;t address the fact that too little of the donations they receive actually go toward cancer research and prevention, rather than &#039;awareness&#039; and internal expenses. There are other more-deserving organizations out there.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/10/sink_pink.single.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like the American Cancer Society (that discriminated against atheists), even an unlikely full reversal of this problem still wouldn&#8217;t address the fact that too little of the donations they receive actually go toward cancer research and prevention, rather than &#8216;awareness&#8217; and internal expenses. There are other more-deserving organizations out there.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/10/sink_pink.single.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2010/10/sink_pink.single.html</a></p>
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		By: F		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/03/komen-caves-but-so-what/#comment-20089</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Walther SGK Rage for the Curse.]]></description>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I agree that, as things stand, SGK doesn’t deserve our money, and does deserve our enmity, but like any organization, its course can be changed. A genuine apology, a change in leadership, a clear commitment to underpriviledged women, and less pinkwashing (pink guns, really?) and I might feel comfortable making donations again&lt;/em&gt;

Well, they&#039;re never going to do that, but even if they did, I would prefer to make an example of them.  They are not necessary.  Other organizations can do the same sort of fundraising.  A true reversal would probably involve so much staff turnover that their potential claim to have expertise is vacant.  

Complete dissolution is appropriate and even necessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I agree that, as things stand, SGK doesn’t deserve our money, and does deserve our enmity, but like any organization, its course can be changed. A genuine apology, a change in leadership, a clear commitment to underpriviledged women, and less pinkwashing (pink guns, really?) and I might feel comfortable making donations again</em></p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;re never going to do that, but even if they did, I would prefer to make an example of them.  They are not necessary.  Other organizations can do the same sort of fundraising.  A true reversal would probably involve so much staff turnover that their potential claim to have expertise is vacant.  </p>
<p>Complete dissolution is appropriate and even necessary.</p>
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		By: Alecthar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree that, as things stand, SGK doesn&#039;t deserve our money, and does deserve our enmity, but like any organization, its course can be changed.  A genuine apology, a change in leadership, a clear commitment to underpriviledged women, and less pinkwashing (pink guns, really?) and I might feel comfortable making donations again.  All this &quot;crossing the line and your done&quot; and &quot;never donating to them again &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt;&quot; stuff doesn&#039;t really seem constructive.  We, and the women who might be aided by such a charitable foundation, would be better served by turning our outrage toward meaningful change of SGK&#039;s leadership and policy, rather than its complete dissolution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that, as things stand, SGK doesn&#8217;t deserve our money, and does deserve our enmity, but like any organization, its course can be changed.  A genuine apology, a change in leadership, a clear commitment to underpriviledged women, and less pinkwashing (pink guns, really?) and I might feel comfortable making donations again.  All this &#8220;crossing the line and your done&#8221; and &#8220;never donating to them again <i>ever</i>&#8221; stuff doesn&#8217;t really seem constructive.  We, and the women who might be aided by such a charitable foundation, would be better served by turning our outrage toward meaningful change of SGK&#8217;s leadership and policy, rather than its complete dissolution.</p>
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		By: Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@HappiestSadist:

Actually, I live on a desert island, I made this computer out of coconuts and seashells

(*hums Gilligan&#039;s Island theme song*)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HappiestSadist:</p>
<p>Actually, I live on a desert island, I made this computer out of coconuts and seashells</p>
<p>(*hums Gilligan&#8217;s Island theme song*)</p>
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		By: Happiestsadist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said. 

Katherine Lorraine @ #4: I&#039;m going to get into contact with the many, many companies they pinkwash that I use (not living in a cave and building everything out of sticks and leaves means you likely do too) and telling them exactly what I think as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. </p>
<p>Katherine Lorraine @ #4: I&#8217;m going to get into contact with the many, many companies they pinkwash that I use (not living in a cave and building everything out of sticks and leaves means you likely do too) and telling them exactly what I think as well.</p>
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		By: Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katherine Lorraine, Chaton de la Mort]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They made a good decision, but they only made this decision because they got bad press. I wi ll not be ever donating to SGK because they chose at one time to put politics ahead of womens&#039; health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They made a good decision, but they only made this decision because they got bad press. I wi ll not be ever donating to SGK because they chose at one time to put politics ahead of womens&#8217; health.</p>
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		By: KathyO		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I only hope that people in congress were paying attention.  Turns out that a whole lot of their constituents actually support Planned Parenthood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only hope that people in congress were paying attention.  Turns out that a whole lot of their constituents actually support Planned Parenthood.</p>
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		By: imjustred		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/02/03/komen-caves-but-so-what/#comment-20082</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well they always have the pink gun business to fall back on http://www.inquisitr.com/190169/susan-g-komen-foundation-promotes-pink-guns-following-planned-parenthood-controversy/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they always have the pink gun business to fall back on <a href="http://www.inquisitr.com/190169/susan-g-komen-foundation-promotes-pink-guns-following-planned-parenthood-controversy/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.inquisitr.com/190169/susan-g-komen-foundation-promotes-pink-guns-following-planned-parenthood-controversy/</a></p>
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