Comments on: New British Studies Confirms Climate Change Consensus, Daily Mail Gets It Totally Wrong https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:31:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: MacTurk https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490768 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:31:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490768 “The Daily Mail” got it wrong? Quelle surprise! This is a paper which often does not have named reporters, preferring to use the tagline “by Daily Mail Reporter”. Its science and technology section is awful. Its news is slanted to its target audience, who might be best defined as “Frightened Little Englanders who have never acknowledged the loss of the Empire”. And they dispprove of everything and everybody that happened or was born after 1950.

At one time they reported that Switzerland was a monarchy. This must have come as news to the Swiss, who have had devolved cantonal governments since the foundation of the Swiss Confederation(The Old confederacy) in 1291.

The first paragraph in the British Meteorological Office’s response is as follows:

“This article includes numerous errors in the reporting of published peer reviewed science undertaken by the Met Office Hadley Centre and for Mr. Rose to suggest that the latest global temperatures available show no warming in the last 15 years is entirely misleading”.

Par for the course for that rag, then.

]]> By: MikeB https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490767 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:32:13 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490767 Since my parents have always read the rag, I do my very best to avoid it.

My wife picked up a free copy in a coffee shop, and as I flicked through it, my eye caught the line ‘Dr Judith Curry, one of America’s most respected climate scientists’. Add to that a quote from Benny Pieser and the fact that its the Daily Mail, and you just know that its an epic fail, without the hassle of actually reading any of it.

]]> By: Daniel J. Andrews https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490766 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:44:11 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490766 No surprise this is from Rose. He gets things wrong quite consistently. Tim Lambert at Deltoid has a whole series of posts on Rose’s errors comparing what Rose says the scientist said, and what the scientists actually said. As well, what the scientist has to say about what Rose said they said.

]]> By: jimspice https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490765 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:49:59 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490765 The Mail, surprise surprise, mis-characterizes the referenced material, so much so, the Met responds:

â??However, what is absolutely clear is that we have continued to see a trend of warming, with the decade of 2000-2009 being clearly the warmest in the instrumental record going back to 1850.”

http://bit.ly/met-schools-mail

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490764 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:55:12 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490764 Neutral Guy: http://goo.gl/lZJXP

Bottom line, you’re wrong.

]]> By: Neutral Guy https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490763 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:33:14 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490763 Pick a political position, find a scientist that supports it and, bang; you are right, everyone else is wrong. Blinders on, full speed ahead.

Think perhaps a bit of a change to your logo tag line:
“Personal opinion as science – Science as personal opinion”

Bottom line is humans just don’t live long enough to see real climate change. Whatever climate you are born in is the same climate you will die in – it ain’t gonna’ change that much in one’s lifetime…(unless of course you move some where else.)

]]> By: guthrie https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490762 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:37:52 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490762 Yes, Rose has form for getting science wrong. But it’s ok, it is only his opinion so no complaint to the PCC that he is flat out lying will work.

]]> By: blueshift https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490761 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:26:41 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490761 Even if we did go back to LIA temperatures, the Thames wouldn’t freeze over. Since they built the embankments the river flows too quickly.

]]> By: Steamshovelmama https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490760 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:24:03 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490760 There’s reason we call it the Daily Fail (or, indeed, the Daily Heil).

The sad thing is this rag has one of the biggest circulations of all the UK papers and it’s considered to be the “quality” tabloid…

]]> By: Dubliner https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490759 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:19:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/01/29/new-british-study-confirms-cli/#comment-490759 David Rose tried the ‘global cooling’ stunt just two years ago. http://www.science20.com/chatter_box/blog/global_cooling_good_story_if_only_it_were_true

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