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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490465</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 21:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves&quot;

And by this parroting of an non-comprehended meme you show just how non thinking you are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves&#8221;</p>
<p>And by this parroting of an non-comprehended meme you show just how non thinking you are.</p>
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		By: Wow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490464</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 21:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I would not attack religion.&quot;

I would. Because it&#039;s not merely silly but antithetical to humanity,

&quot;I would heed God’s charge to Adam and Eve when he said: ” be fruitful and multiply and replenish the Earth.”&quot;

The christians who don&#039;t want to do that cite the passages that say the earth belongs to them. Or that he&#039;ll not flood the earth (again), despite there being nothing about preventing US flooding it).

Because the bible is such a pointless mishmash collection of myths that it can be selectively quoted to support whatever you want.

Why?

Because religion is what you choose and those who want to choose selfishly will be selfish christans, those who want to be social will be social christians.

The religion doesn&#039;t change anyone, it only gives them an external &quot;justification&quot; for who they are.

Because it&#039;s a man made fairy tale, and it&#039;s written therefore to serve man&#039;s wishes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I would not attack religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would. Because it&#8217;s not merely silly but antithetical to humanity,</p>
<p>&#8220;I would heed God’s charge to Adam and Eve when he said: ” be fruitful and multiply and replenish the Earth.”&#8221;</p>
<p>The christians who don&#8217;t want to do that cite the passages that say the earth belongs to them. Or that he&#8217;ll not flood the earth (again), despite there being nothing about preventing US flooding it).</p>
<p>Because the bible is such a pointless mishmash collection of myths that it can be selectively quoted to support whatever you want.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because religion is what you choose and those who want to choose selfishly will be selfish christans, those who want to be social will be social christians.</p>
<p>The religion doesn&#8217;t change anyone, it only gives them an external &#8220;justification&#8221; for who they are.</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s a man made fairy tale, and it&#8217;s written therefore to serve man&#8217;s wishes.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490462&quot;&gt;Paul Roden&lt;/a&gt;.

But why is it &quot;&lt;strong&gt;re&lt;/strong&gt;plenish the Earth instead of must &quot;Plenish the Earth&quot;???

Or are we not being told the whole truth ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490462">Paul Roden</a>.</p>
<p>But why is it &#8220;<strong>re</strong>plenish the Earth instead of must &#8220;Plenish the Earth&#8221;???</p>
<p>Or are we not being told the whole truth &#8230;</p>
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		By: Paul Roden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490462</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Roden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would not attack religion.  And if you are a Christian, I would heed God&#039;s charge to Adam and Eve when he said: &quot; be fruitful and multiply and replenish the Earth.&quot;  Destroying the environment by burning fossil fuel, polluting the air, water and soil with toxic chemicals does not seem to me to be &quot;replenishing the Earth.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not attack religion.  And if you are a Christian, I would heed God&#8217;s charge to Adam and Eve when he said: &#8221; be fruitful and multiply and replenish the Earth.&#8221;  Destroying the environment by burning fossil fuel, polluting the air, water and soil with toxic chemicals does not seem to me to be &#8220;replenishing the Earth.&#8221;</p>
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		By: v-pills		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490461</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lay it off on the sodium flouride, but then again, living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves can make a population less intelligent as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lay it off on the sodium flouride, but then again, living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves can make a population less intelligent as well.</p>
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		By: NJ		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490460</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GotA@ 18:

&lt;blockquote&gt;NJ must be canadian. Too much sodium flouride and the decreased need to think for oneself when socialist government thinks for you can take its toll on human intelligence. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Comment #48 at &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/12/one_more_lesson_on_what_antivaccine_mean.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Respectful Insolence&lt;/a&gt; post of December 20, 2011:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ever try to have an intelligent conversation with a Canadian? It won&#039;t happen unless the Canadian is a politician who drinks water that is flouride free. The rest of the population are rather dumb. I lay it off on the sodium flouride, but then again, living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves can make a population less intelligent as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The poster has been identified as having previously posted as &#039;Dr. Smart&#039;, &#039;Medicien Man&#039; &amp; &#039;Santas Little Helper&#039; over at Orac&#039;s. He used to post under his real name - Rob Hood - until people actually visited his website and pointed out he was not just an uneducable YEC but also a conspiracy nut of the highest order.

Obviously its Greg&#039;s blog and Greg&#039;s rules, but if known sockpuppetry is a bannable offense, then this loon is clearly first in line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GotA@ 18:</p>
<blockquote><p>NJ must be canadian. Too much sodium flouride and the decreased need to think for oneself when socialist government thinks for you can take its toll on human intelligence. </p></blockquote>
<p>Comment #48 at <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/12/one_more_lesson_on_what_antivaccine_mean.php" rel="nofollow">Respectful Insolence</a> post of December 20, 2011:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ever try to have an intelligent conversation with a Canadian? It won&#8217;t happen unless the Canadian is a politician who drinks water that is flouride free. The rest of the population are rather dumb. I lay it off on the sodium flouride, but then again, living in a socialist society where most people have the government think for them instead of thinking for themselves can make a population less intelligent as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>The poster has been identified as having previously posted as &#8216;Dr. Smart&#8217;, &#8216;Medicien Man&#8217; &#038; &#8216;Santas Little Helper&#8217; over at Orac&#8217;s. He used to post under his real name &#8211; Rob Hood &#8211; until people actually visited his website and pointed out he was not just an uneducable YEC but also a conspiracy nut of the highest order.</p>
<p>Obviously its Greg&#8217;s blog and Greg&#8217;s rules, but if known sockpuppetry is a bannable offense, then this loon is clearly first in line.</p>
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		By: Achrachno		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490459</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Achrachno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boy, and I thought Gladiator was a bit off kilter before.






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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, and I thought Gladiator was a bit off kilter before.</p>
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		By: Matt Hagen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490458</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Hagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gladiator/Greg:   I would love to hear where get your information from. I suspect Glenn Beck,Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. While it is true that co2 is generated in much greater quantities from the natural carbon cycle, the extra amount of co2 produced by by burning fossil fuels, does not get absorbed by the land and ocean. Atmospheric CO2 is now at its highest level in 15 to 20 million years.
      Abiogenic or naturally accruing, sources of oil have been found, but never in commercially profitable amounts. There is controversy on how much abiogenic oil we have and how difficult it would be to acquire. Fossil fuel oil is what we are using now. Spending more time and money on a fuel that we know is destroying our environment only makes sense to oil companies and the people who have been fooled by their propaganda.
      Not sure what the point is about Noah. I&#039;m guessing you don&#039;t believe animals are endangered and extinct from destroying habitats and overhunting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gladiator/Greg:   I would love to hear where get your information from. I suspect Glenn Beck,Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh. While it is true that co2 is generated in much greater quantities from the natural carbon cycle, the extra amount of co2 produced by by burning fossil fuels, does not get absorbed by the land and ocean. Atmospheric CO2 is now at its highest level in 15 to 20 million years.<br />
      Abiogenic or naturally accruing, sources of oil have been found, but never in commercially profitable amounts. There is controversy on how much abiogenic oil we have and how difficult it would be to acquire. Fossil fuel oil is what we are using now. Spending more time and money on a fuel that we know is destroying our environment only makes sense to oil companies and the people who have been fooled by their propaganda.<br />
      Not sure what the point is about Noah. I&#8217;m guessing you don&#8217;t believe animals are endangered and extinct from destroying habitats and overhunting.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&quot;Fossil&quot; fuels is a false statement. Since the 1960s we have known that the earth naturally produces oil and that we will never run out. Governmentts and corporations do not like the idea of this getting out since it would cut into the &quot;supply and demand&quot; money chain.&quot;

Yes, yes, indeed. There are Oil Factories located deep in the earth where aliens have enslaved hoards of Bigfoots (Bigfeet?) to craft fresh oil out of Unicorn Piss.






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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;Fossil&#8221; fuels is a false statement. Since the 1960s we have known that the earth naturally produces oil and that we will never run out. Governmentts and corporations do not like the idea of this getting out since it would cut into the &#8220;supply and demand&#8221; money chain.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, yes, indeed. There are Oil Factories located deep in the earth where aliens have enslaved hoards of Bigfoots (Bigfeet?) to craft fresh oil out of Unicorn Piss.</p>
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		By: Gladiator of the Ages		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2012/01/16/national-center-for-science-ed/#comment-490456</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NJ must be canadian. Too much sodium flouride and the decreased need to think for oneself when socialist government thinks for you can take its toll on human intelligence.

&quot;Fossil&quot; fuels is a false statement. Since the 1960s we have known that the earth naturally produces oil and that we will never run out. Governmentts and corporations do not like the idea of this getting out since it would cut into the &quot;supply and demand&quot; money chain.

Want to know about climate change? it is real, but not manmade. The earth constants vents CO2 and has been doing so long before man starting burning oil. Nature produces far more CO2 than man does.

Noah had a climate change problem that even AL Gore could not have profited from. Due to the one continent seperating into seven, the earth&#039;s deep channels were opened up and spilled trillion s of tons of water persceond onto dry land. Eathquakes, volcanoes, mountains rising fropm the sea floor, and rain coming down like man has never seen before for 40 days and 40 nights. Afterwards, the entire earth was different. A gran canyon and many mountains had been formed due to land masses retreating and water seceding and continuous earthquakes and flooding. After that came an ice age as a resutl that killed numerous species of animals including dinosaurs - the ones that were not hunted for food, skins, or sport.

Al Gore would have been proud. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ must be canadian. Too much sodium flouride and the decreased need to think for oneself when socialist government thinks for you can take its toll on human intelligence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fossil&#8221; fuels is a false statement. Since the 1960s we have known that the earth naturally produces oil and that we will never run out. Governmentts and corporations do not like the idea of this getting out since it would cut into the &#8220;supply and demand&#8221; money chain.</p>
<p>Want to know about climate change? it is real, but not manmade. The earth constants vents CO2 and has been doing so long before man starting burning oil. Nature produces far more CO2 than man does.</p>
<p>Noah had a climate change problem that even AL Gore could not have profited from. Due to the one continent seperating into seven, the earth&#8217;s deep channels were opened up and spilled trillion s of tons of water persceond onto dry land. Eathquakes, volcanoes, mountains rising fropm the sea floor, and rain coming down like man has never seen before for 40 days and 40 nights. Afterwards, the entire earth was different. A gran canyon and many mountains had been formed due to land masses retreating and water seceding and continuous earthquakes and flooding. After that came an ice age as a resutl that killed numerous species of animals including dinosaurs &#8211; the ones that were not hunted for food, skins, or sport.</p>
<p>Al Gore would have been proud. </p>
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