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		By: Kirby Mclees		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17975</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirby Mclees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 22:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark Comerford is correct...the USPS only cares about making their phony numbers and their subsequent bogus bonuses. It&#039;s all a sham,and thus a shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Comerford is correct&#8230;the USPS only cares about making their phony numbers and their subsequent bogus bonuses. It&#8217;s all a sham,and thus a shame.</p>
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		By: june antonio		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[june antonio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 07:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Crap, I cannot get images to load properly on this website. I&#039;m using firefox 3.4... yes, I know I need to update, but some of my add-ons are not capatable with the newest firefox. Anyways, I inform you of the ptoblem. Later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap, I cannot get images to load properly on this website. I&#8217;m using firefox 3.4&#8230; yes, I know I need to update, but some of my add-ons are not capatable with the newest firefox. Anyways, I inform you of the ptoblem. Later.</p>
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		By: fastlane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17973</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fastlane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 16:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awww, did you have your widdle feefees hurt, cupcake?  

I pointed out some subtleties in most court precedents that may not have been evident in your post.  I&#039;m sorry if you&#039;re such a sensitive little fluffy that some humor and detail is so painful for you to endure.  

I found your defensive reaction rather amusing, actually.  Particularly ironic, your &#039;grow some&#039; comments, based on what is apparently a very thin skinned reaction.  Maybe blogging isn&#039;t for you.  

I also expect you will now refrain from criticizing anything you haven&#039;t done in the future, since you seem to think I&#039;m not allowed to comment on how crappy your legal analysis is without writing a legal blog of my own. 

You will live up to your own standards, correct, or should we had flaming hypocrite to thin skinned nancy as well, eh?  

Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww, did you have your widdle feefees hurt, cupcake?  </p>
<p>I pointed out some subtleties in most court precedents that may not have been evident in your post.  I&#8217;m sorry if you&#8217;re such a sensitive little fluffy that some humor and detail is so painful for you to endure.  </p>
<p>I found your defensive reaction rather amusing, actually.  Particularly ironic, your &#8216;grow some&#8217; comments, based on what is apparently a very thin skinned reaction.  Maybe blogging isn&#8217;t for you.  </p>
<p>I also expect you will now refrain from criticizing anything you haven&#8217;t done in the future, since you seem to think I&#8217;m not allowed to comment on how crappy your legal analysis is without writing a legal blog of my own. </p>
<p>You will live up to your own standards, correct, or should we had flaming hypocrite to thin skinned nancy as well, eh?  </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17972</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meh. This seems like the least reason to get worked up over anything. Lets assume they get their way, and hold services on Sundays in school buildings. The result would be... A DISASTER! Oh wait, it wouldn&#039;t. It would be a bunch of people gathering to do their weird rituals every week in an empty building. Probably making the school a little pocket money, too. If I remember correctly, the Constitution prohibits the promotion of one religion at the expense of others, right? So long as the answer to a similar request from, say, Muslims is &quot;yes&quot;, there&#039;s no reason why the answer to this group&#039;s request shouldn&#039;t be &quot;yes&quot;.

Its not like they&#039;re asking to stuff a crucifix up every student&#039;s arse, is it? All they want to do is have the use of an empty building for their own fairly innocuous ends. This isn&#039;t about foisting religion on the rest of us, its about wanting a place to practice their religion privately.

TL:DR; I don&#039;t see what you&#039;re getting upset about. Its just a bunch of guys who want to rent an otherwise empty room.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh. This seems like the least reason to get worked up over anything. Lets assume they get their way, and hold services on Sundays in school buildings. The result would be&#8230; A DISASTER! Oh wait, it wouldn&#8217;t. It would be a bunch of people gathering to do their weird rituals every week in an empty building. Probably making the school a little pocket money, too. If I remember correctly, the Constitution prohibits the promotion of one religion at the expense of others, right? So long as the answer to a similar request from, say, Muslims is &#8220;yes&#8221;, there&#8217;s no reason why the answer to this group&#8217;s request shouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;yes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Its not like they&#8217;re asking to stuff a crucifix up every student&#8217;s arse, is it? All they want to do is have the use of an empty building for their own fairly innocuous ends. This isn&#8217;t about foisting religion on the rest of us, its about wanting a place to practice their religion privately.</p>
<p>TL:DR; I don&#8217;t see what you&#8217;re getting upset about. Its just a bunch of guys who want to rent an otherwise empty room.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fastlane, I wrote a blog post that pointed to some stuff.  You told me I left out important stuff and told me what the stuff was.  It was pretty much the same stuff.  

Did you read the original material at all?  To which this post was a mere pointer?

No, of course not. You call yourself fastlane. How about breakdown lane?  

If you want every blog post to be exactly as you would have done it, grow some and start your own blog and then read it to the exclusion of every other blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fastlane, I wrote a blog post that pointed to some stuff.  You told me I left out important stuff and told me what the stuff was.  It was pretty much the same stuff.  </p>
<p>Did you read the original material at all?  To which this post was a mere pointer?</p>
<p>No, of course not. You call yourself fastlane. How about breakdown lane?  </p>
<p>If you want every blog post to be exactly as you would have done it, grow some and start your own blog and then read it to the exclusion of every other blog.</p>
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		By: fastlane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17970</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fastlane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah, that&#039;s why I usually skip this blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, that&#8217;s why I usually skip this blog.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17969</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Midnight.. Nothing I have said contradicts what you have googled.  My post is a fucking link to a fucking supreme court document and a fucking on line news report about it, for fucksake.  What do you fucking want?  

Fucking Jeesh ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midnight.. Nothing I have said contradicts what you have googled.  My post is a fucking link to a fucking supreme court document and a fucking on line news report about it, for fucksake.  What do you fucking want?  </p>
<p>Fucking Jeesh &#8230;</p>
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		By: benjdm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[benjdm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Schools can either allow all religious groups to rent out their facilities or none. My local school district allows all and does all a church to meet there.

I do think your post title is misleading...not sure how to accurately title it myself, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schools can either allow all religious groups to rent out their facilities or none. My local school district allows all and does all a church to meet there.</p>
<p>I do think your post title is misleading&#8230;not sure how to accurately title it myself, though.</p>
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		By: Randomfactor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randomfactor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Part of the problem is that the school facilities aren&#039;t in use on Sundays, due to the country&#039;s long deference to one particular religion&#039;s timetables.  Other groups such as atheists etc would be able to use the facilities on the same basis on weekdays--except the schools are using them on those days (scheduling special extracurricular events so as not to occur on Sunday.)  So they tend to be exclusively used by the cultists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the problem is that the school facilities aren&#8217;t in use on Sundays, due to the country&#8217;s long deference to one particular religion&#8217;s timetables.  Other groups such as atheists etc would be able to use the facilities on the same basis on weekdays&#8211;except the schools are using them on those days (scheduling special extracurricular events so as not to occur on Sunday.)  So they tend to be exclusively used by the cultists.</p>
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		By: Midnight Rambler		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/05/religious-groups-still-cant-use-public-schools-facilities-for-worship/#comment-17966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Midnight Rambler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is WOTI is that this is a very finely carved case.  The Supreme Court has already ruled that religious groups can use school properties after hours if it&#039;s allowed in general.  This case was treated differently because it involved actually conducting religious services.  Moreover, 1) it doesn&#039;t ban them explicitly, but only &lt;i&gt;allows&lt;/i&gt; local jurisdictions to ban them, and 2) the Supreme Court didn&#039;t actually take up the case, which means it only applies to the Second Circuit&#039;s jurisdiction.
http://gothamschools.org/2011/12/05/sunday-schools-after-household-of-faith-v-board/

Jeesh Greg, it took me way longer to type this comment than the five seconds it took to look that up on Google.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is WOTI is that this is a very finely carved case.  The Supreme Court has already ruled that religious groups can use school properties after hours if it&#8217;s allowed in general.  This case was treated differently because it involved actually conducting religious services.  Moreover, 1) it doesn&#8217;t ban them explicitly, but only <i>allows</i> local jurisdictions to ban them, and 2) the Supreme Court didn&#8217;t actually take up the case, which means it only applies to the Second Circuit&#8217;s jurisdiction.<br />
<a href="http://gothamschools.org/2011/12/05/sunday-schools-after-household-of-faith-v-board/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://gothamschools.org/2011/12/05/sunday-schools-after-household-of-faith-v-board/</a></p>
<p>Jeesh Greg, it took me way longer to type this comment than the five seconds it took to look that up on Google.</p>
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