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		By: Francisco Bacopa		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/25/scottish-couple-murdered-in-suspected-honor-killing/#comment-17791</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francisco Bacopa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guess it was good I didn&#039;t marry that West Bank gal I had back in the day. I might have got shot if we went to her grandparent&#039;s home. I think she knew her brother had a hit on me even here in Texas. I think that&#039;s why we broke up. 

Looked her up ten years later and found out she&#039;s a veterinarian. Good for her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it was good I didn&#8217;t marry that West Bank gal I had back in the day. I might have got shot if we went to her grandparent&#8217;s home. I think she knew her brother had a hit on me even here in Texas. I think that&#8217;s why we broke up. </p>
<p>Looked her up ten years later and found out she&#8217;s a veterinarian. Good for her.</p>
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		By: Arkady		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/25/scottish-couple-murdered-in-suspected-honor-killing/#comment-17790</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arkady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mywall, I&#039;m at work so can&#039;t go linksearching in any depth, but here was a recent case in the West Bank: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/30/honour-killing-west-bank-palestine

In brief, honour killing is about control: women or couples who&#039;s relationship or marriage pisses off someone they&#039;re related to, and the relative kills her/them. Other times when a woman is sexually assaulted her relatives kill her for having brought &#039;dishonour&#039; on the family. In India it&#039;s often caste-based, in other cases it&#039;s religion (e.g. Banaz Mahmood, a young Kurdish woman in the UK who was raped, tortured and beaten to death by several of her male relatives for having a Muslim boyfriend), but frankly they barely seem to need any excuse. 

A lot of people dislike the designation &#039;honour killing&#039; as it minimises the brutal murder(s) involved. The case I linked to is notable in that it has led to enough outcry that the lower penalties for &#039;honour killing&#039; in the Palestinian territories will hopefully be removed and the cases treated as murder, as they should be.

(P.S Was your post sarcastic, as in &#039;what&#039;s &#039;honourable&#039; about murder&#039;? Apologies if so)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mywall, I&#8217;m at work so can&#8217;t go linksearching in any depth, but here was a recent case in the West Bank: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/30/honour-killing-west-bank-palestine" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/30/honour-killing-west-bank-palestine</a></p>
<p>In brief, honour killing is about control: women or couples who&#8217;s relationship or marriage pisses off someone they&#8217;re related to, and the relative kills her/them. Other times when a woman is sexually assaulted her relatives kill her for having brought &#8216;dishonour&#8217; on the family. In India it&#8217;s often caste-based, in other cases it&#8217;s religion (e.g. Banaz Mahmood, a young Kurdish woman in the UK who was raped, tortured and beaten to death by several of her male relatives for having a Muslim boyfriend), but frankly they barely seem to need any excuse. </p>
<p>A lot of people dislike the designation &#8216;honour killing&#8217; as it minimises the brutal murder(s) involved. The case I linked to is notable in that it has led to enough outcry that the lower penalties for &#8216;honour killing&#8217; in the Palestinian territories will hopefully be removed and the cases treated as murder, as they should be.</p>
<p>(P.S Was your post sarcastic, as in &#8216;what&#8217;s &#8216;honourable&#8217; about murder&#8217;? Apologies if so)</p>
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		By: mywall		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/25/scottish-couple-murdered-in-suspected-honor-killing/#comment-17789</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mywall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s an &quot;honour killing&quot;? (apart from being a stupid lie attempting to excuse murder)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s an &#8220;honour killing&#8221;? (apart from being a stupid lie attempting to excuse murder)</p>
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