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	Comments on: American Academy of Pediatrics on the Delta Airline Video (and a petition for you to sign)	</title>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw the NIVC video. I did not interpret that they were supporting to not get the flu vaccine. The message was clear reminding people to use good hand washing, stay hydrated, get sleep and exercise etc. Then it specifically said &quot;getting a flu shot is another option&quot; and further went on to say to check with your health care provider about the flu vaccine even mentioning that there are more than one type. Not sure what the big issue is from AAP. Again, I did not view the message that is was telling people not to resort to the flu vaccine and that other methods of prevention were the only option.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the NIVC video. I did not interpret that they were supporting to not get the flu vaccine. The message was clear reminding people to use good hand washing, stay hydrated, get sleep and exercise etc. Then it specifically said &#8220;getting a flu shot is another option&#8221; and further went on to say to check with your health care provider about the flu vaccine even mentioning that there are more than one type. Not sure what the big issue is from AAP. Again, I did not view the message that is was telling people not to resort to the flu vaccine and that other methods of prevention were the only option.</p>
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		By: Ken		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509534</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NVIC may have paid as much as $49,000 to show the three min video in November. ECBT contracted last summer to air its own video in December.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NVIC may have paid as much as $49,000 to show the three min video in November. ECBT contracted last summer to air its own video in December.</p>
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		By: Dev		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My apologies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509532</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No, I said fifth and I meant fifth!  Of course, my comment was tongue in cheek, and my reference to the 5th amendment violation is when the airlines sit on the tarmac for five hours for no good reason and everyone in the plane is effectively Gitmo&#039;d without due process. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I said fifth and I meant fifth!  Of course, my comment was tongue in cheek, and my reference to the 5th amendment violation is when the airlines sit on the tarmac for five hours for no good reason and everyone in the plane is effectively Gitmo&#8217;d without due process. </p>
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		By: Dev		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Read Greg&#039;s comment 12 above. He was talking about rights being stripped away by the airlines. He references the fifth amendment; which is the due process clause. I think he was referring to the fourth amendment, protection against search and seizure; since the fifth amendment wouldn&#039;t make sense. So, in summary, I was addressing Greg&#039;s comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Greg&#8217;s comment 12 above. He was talking about rights being stripped away by the airlines. He references the fifth amendment; which is the due process clause. I think he was referring to the fourth amendment, protection against search and seizure; since the fifth amendment wouldn&#8217;t make sense. So, in summary, I was addressing Greg&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		By: Narad		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Narad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;There is an argument to be made, however, for the illegality of the intrusive scanners at airports. The TSA is a government agency working inside a private institution. It could be considered sufficiently intertwined with government so as to warrant a Fourth Amendment protection.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What, pray tell, does this digression have to do with your previous assertion that a &quot;court may find that the misinformation spread by these films is harmful to a captive audience and therefore should not be shown&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There is an argument to be made, however, for the illegality of the intrusive scanners at airports. The TSA is a government agency working inside a private institution. It could be considered sufficiently intertwined with government so as to warrant a Fourth Amendment protection.</p></blockquote>
<p>What, pray tell, does this digression have to do with your previous assertion that a &#8220;court may find that the misinformation spread by these films is harmful to a captive audience and therefore should not be shown&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Dev		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509529</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and a few more things:

Where does it say in the Constitution that we have the &quot;freedom on choice?&quot; I must have missed that in my Constitutional Law class.

And finally; it could be argued that a person acting on misinformation is not acting freely. There are reasons why misinformation and misrepresentation are considered scientific misconduct when recruiting participants for experiments; one of those reasons being that people making the choice of participating based on misinformation and misrepresentation, are not making an educated decision and therefore are not making a free choice. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and a few more things:</p>
<p>Where does it say in the Constitution that we have the &#8220;freedom on choice?&#8221; I must have missed that in my Constitutional Law class.</p>
<p>And finally; it could be argued that a person acting on misinformation is not acting freely. There are reasons why misinformation and misrepresentation are considered scientific misconduct when recruiting participants for experiments; one of those reasons being that people making the choice of participating based on misinformation and misrepresentation, are not making an educated decision and therefore are not making a free choice. </p>
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		By: Dev		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Constitution does not apply to private space; which is the legal status of an airplane owned by a private company. Companies can do whatever they want as long as it isn&#039;t deemed so egregious by the courts as to warrant regulation. The Constitution does not apply to private actors directly. The government can regulate private actors through the Commerce Clause only.

There is an argument to be made, however, for the illegality of the intrusive scanners at airports. The TSA is a government agency working inside a private institution. It could be considered sufficiently intertwined with government so as to warrant a Fourth Amendment protection.

All of this being said, laws are intended to be vague. They are written this way so that they can be interpreted in whatever way the judge(s) want them to be interpreted. This is no different with the Constitution. We learn this during the first year of law school. Law is all about stroking the fur of the judge(s) and jury(ies) in the right way so that they rule in your favor. All too often the judges will take this ambiguity and use it as an opportunity to push a certain political (usually conservative) agenda. Be wary of the legal system; it isn&#039;t what most people think it is. This is not some conspiracy theory. Take a look at the hearsay rules in the Federal Rules of Evidence; in particular, Rules 801 - 807. The instruction for my Evidence final exam is, find a rule that gets the provided piece of evidence admitted for trial. My evidence professor has said that any piece of evidence, no matter if its hearsay or circumstantial, can be admitted by one of the rules in this section.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Constitution does not apply to private space; which is the legal status of an airplane owned by a private company. Companies can do whatever they want as long as it isn&#8217;t deemed so egregious by the courts as to warrant regulation. The Constitution does not apply to private actors directly. The government can regulate private actors through the Commerce Clause only.</p>
<p>There is an argument to be made, however, for the illegality of the intrusive scanners at airports. The TSA is a government agency working inside a private institution. It could be considered sufficiently intertwined with government so as to warrant a Fourth Amendment protection.</p>
<p>All of this being said, laws are intended to be vague. They are written this way so that they can be interpreted in whatever way the judge(s) want them to be interpreted. This is no different with the Constitution. We learn this during the first year of law school. Law is all about stroking the fur of the judge(s) and jury(ies) in the right way so that they rule in your favor. All too often the judges will take this ambiguity and use it as an opportunity to push a certain political (usually conservative) agenda. Be wary of the legal system; it isn&#8217;t what most people think it is. This is not some conspiracy theory. Take a look at the hearsay rules in the Federal Rules of Evidence; in particular, Rules 801 &#8211; 807. The instruction for my Evidence final exam is, find a rule that gets the provided piece of evidence admitted for trial. My evidence professor has said that any piece of evidence, no matter if its hearsay or circumstantial, can be admitted by one of the rules in this section.</p>
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		By: Narad		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Narad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The federal government can regulate airlines through the Commerce Clause. A court may find that the misinformation spread by these films is harmful to a captive audience and therefore should not be shown.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yah. I think an FAA version of the Fairness Doctrine, which is about the best one could hope for under this odd scenario, is a ways off.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The law is a lot more complicated than the average citizen thinks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The federal government can regulate airlines through the Commerce Clause. A court may find that the misinformation spread by these films is harmful to a captive audience and therefore should not be shown.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yah. I think an FAA version of the Fairness Doctrine, which is about the best one could hope for under this odd scenario, is a ways off.</p>
<blockquote><p>The law is a lot more complicated than the average citizen thinks.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll say.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/11/13/american-academy-of-pediatrics/#comment-509526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, the airline has already taken away their Second Amendment Rights, so they might as well take away their First Amendment Rights!  

Fifth Amendment too, probably. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the airline has already taken away their Second Amendment Rights, so they might as well take away their First Amendment Rights!  </p>
<p>Fifth Amendment too, probably. </p>
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