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		By: Stewart		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stewart]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I never believed a bit in creationism, but still for me Richard Dawkins Selfish Gene was the book to end them all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

IMO, The Extended Phenotype is a better book than The Selfish Gene. While aimed at biologists it&#039;s still accessible to the layman.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I never believed a bit in creationism, but still for me Richard Dawkins Selfish Gene was the book to end them all.</p></blockquote>
<p>IMO, The Extended Phenotype is a better book than The Selfish Gene. While aimed at biologists it&#8217;s still accessible to the layman.</p>
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		By: chosen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 18:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[something has to be created before it can evolve. they go hand in hand, to argue one is more right that the other is completely moronic and absurd.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something has to be created before it can evolve. they go hand in hand, to argue one is more right that the other is completely moronic and absurd.</p>
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		By: Tilman Baumann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tilman Baumann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I never believed a bit in creationism, but still for me Richard Dawkins Selfish Gene was the book to end them all.

I can apply the systems used in this book to almost any question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never believed a bit in creationism, but still for me Richard Dawkins Selfish Gene was the book to end them all.</p>
<p>I can apply the systems used in this book to almost any question.</p>
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		By: rditmars		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Miller, you may also want to consider his &quot;Only a Theory&quot; which covers the evolution/ID debate without as much God stuff, or any of the irritating quantum flapdoodle of &quot;Finding Darwin&#039;s God&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Miller, you may also want to consider his &#8220;Only a Theory&#8221; which covers the evolution/ID debate without as much God stuff, or any of the irritating quantum flapdoodle of &#8220;Finding Darwin&#8217;s God&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Mike from Ottawa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike from Ottawa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent list.  I have most of the adult books on it.

I find the Shubin &amp; Prothero books a great one-two punch and recommend any time there is the least opportunity to do so.

I also found Jerry Coyne&#039;s &#039;Why Evolution Is True&#039; very good and it is a third book I suggest to folk interested in learning more about evolution.  Coyne&#039;s blog of the same name bears little resemblance to the book which is all about the positive case for evolution.

I&#039;d recommend Shubin to anyone, but if I were recommending a book for someone inclined to creationism because of their religion but still somewhat open-minded (and there are some), I think Coyne&#039;s book would be less likely to provoke a negative reaction than Prothero&#039;s.  Prothero&#039;s book does shine as a handy compendium of everything needed for a detailed destruction of any YECs and I&#039;ve used it as such on several occasions.  The material on the Grand Canyon alone is excellent for this.

The best thing about the Shubin, Prothero and Coyne books, though, is that they are fascinating reads even if you come into them, as I did, convinced that evolution is true.  Even if there was no evolution - creationism kafuffle, they&#039;d be well worth reading.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent list.  I have most of the adult books on it.</p>
<p>I find the Shubin &#038; Prothero books a great one-two punch and recommend any time there is the least opportunity to do so.</p>
<p>I also found Jerry Coyne&#8217;s &#8216;Why Evolution Is True&#8217; very good and it is a third book I suggest to folk interested in learning more about evolution.  Coyne&#8217;s blog of the same name bears little resemblance to the book which is all about the positive case for evolution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend Shubin to anyone, but if I were recommending a book for someone inclined to creationism because of their religion but still somewhat open-minded (and there are some), I think Coyne&#8217;s book would be less likely to provoke a negative reaction than Prothero&#8217;s.  Prothero&#8217;s book does shine as a handy compendium of everything needed for a detailed destruction of any YECs and I&#8217;ve used it as such on several occasions.  The material on the Grand Canyon alone is excellent for this.</p>
<p>The best thing about the Shubin, Prothero and Coyne books, though, is that they are fascinating reads even if you come into them, as I did, convinced that evolution is true.  Even if there was no evolution &#8211; creationism kafuffle, they&#8217;d be well worth reading.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian [17] &lt;em&gt;But you totally did anyway. Thanks a lot, Greg.&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, I guess I did, but I didn&#039;t mean to.  I like your book a lot, although I&#039;ve only seen a borrowed copy of it.  In this case, however, my objective was to chose the one definitive book on the fossil record and evolution with a certain degree of attention to the problem brought to the table by creationists, and Don&#039;s book is the clear choice among many.  I&#039;m sure your book will turn up on a forthcoming list of topically defined books. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian [17] <em>But you totally did anyway. Thanks a lot, Greg.</em></p>
<p>Sorry, I guess I did, but I didn&#8217;t mean to.  I like your book a lot, although I&#8217;ve only seen a borrowed copy of it.  In this case, however, my objective was to chose the one definitive book on the fossil record and evolution with a certain degree of attention to the problem brought to the table by creationists, and Don&#8217;s book is the clear choice among many.  I&#8217;m sure your book will turn up on a forthcoming list of topically defined books. </p>
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		By: Lynn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian, never respond to a bad review.  Your publisher must have told you that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, never respond to a bad review.  Your publisher must have told you that!</p>
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		By: Brian Switek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Switek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not to put down Brian...&quot;

But you totally did anyway. Thanks a lot, Greg.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not to put down Brian&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>But you totally did anyway. Thanks a lot, Greg.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian&#039;s is OK but a bit derivitive.  Don has had his hands on these fossils for decades and has personally rewritten the palaentology of several groups of extinct mammals, while Brian has read a lot of Stephen Gould and stuff.  Not to put down Brian, his book is good, but Don is a vastly experienced practioner in the field and he truly brings that to his work.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian&#8217;s is OK but a bit derivitive.  Don has had his hands on these fossils for decades and has personally rewritten the palaentology of several groups of extinct mammals, while Brian has read a lot of Stephen Gould and stuff.  Not to put down Brian, his book is good, but Don is a vastly experienced practioner in the field and he truly brings that to his work.  </p>
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		By: G.Shelley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G.Shelley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 19:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Prothero&#039;s book is excellent, one of my favourite evolution books, but Brian Switek&#039;s &quot;Written in Stone&quot; is also pretty good and covers much of the same material, though often from a different angle]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Prothero&#8217;s book is excellent, one of my favourite evolution books, but Brian Switek&#8217;s &#8220;Written in Stone&#8221; is also pretty good and covers much of the same material, though often from a different angle</p>
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