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	Comments on: Rebecca Watson: I love you, stand by you, and won&#8217;t tell mom about the infantile bloggers and commenters	</title>
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		By: Stephanie Zvan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Zvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a setting that can be shut off, but who knows. Maybe he prefers the happy little round yellow people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a setting that can be shut off, but who knows. Maybe he prefers the happy little round yellow people.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OMG I just discovered that FTB.com converts text emoticons to little pictures. Does PZ know about this? He&#039;ll fly into a rage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG I just discovered that FTB.com converts text emoticons to little pictures. Does PZ know about this? He&#8217;ll fly into a rage.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Or, to put it another way ....&lt;/em&gt;


:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Or, to put it another way &#8230;.</em></p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Stephanie Zvan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Zvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, I think I&#039;m very happy you&#039;re not any better at that. Of course, if you were, Taft probably wouldn&#039;t get it. S/he&#039;d probably not see anything out of the ordinary. 

I&#039;m pretty sure mansplaining men aren&#039;t allowed to refer to the idea that being male gives them deeper understanding of what, say, happened to Rebecca. They just have to assume it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I think I&#8217;m very happy you&#8217;re not any better at that. Of course, if you were, Taft probably wouldn&#8217;t get it. S/he&#8217;d probably not see anything out of the ordinary. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure mansplaining men aren&#8217;t allowed to refer to the idea that being male gives them deeper understanding of what, say, happened to Rebecca. They just have to assume it.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[no, no wait hold on  a second!  I wanna try again.  OK, straight faces now everyone.

... here we go ..


&lt;em&gt;Stephanie hold on a sec, that&#039;s not the best response to Taft. 

Taft, what Stephanie means to say is that my hat-hair is a lot better now that I&#039;ve had a hair cut, therefore your argument is invalid. Sometimes it takes a certain amount of experience as a man to really understand what a word with the word &quot;man&quot; in it really means.  So let me just tell you ... hold on a sec, Steph, you can chime in when I&#039;m done ... that what she means is a word about explaining things by men.  See?  &lt;/em&gt;

There we go. &#039;splained?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, no wait hold on  a second!  I wanna try again.  OK, straight faces now everyone.</p>
<p>&#8230; here we go ..</p>
<p><em>Stephanie hold on a sec, that&#8217;s not the best response to Taft. </p>
<p>Taft, what Stephanie means to say is that my hat-hair is a lot better now that I&#8217;ve had a hair cut, therefore your argument is invalid. Sometimes it takes a certain amount of experience as a man to really understand what a word with the word &#8220;man&#8221; in it really means.  So let me just tell you &#8230; hold on a sec, Steph, you can chime in when I&#8217;m done &#8230; that what she means is a word about explaining things by men.  See?  </em></p>
<p>There we go. &#8216;splained?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taft, you just mansplained mansplaining.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taft, you just mansplained mansplaining.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Zvan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12352</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Zvan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Taft, if you don&#039;t know what it means, how can you tell when it&#039;s used inappropriately?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taft, if you don&#8217;t know what it means, how can you tell when it&#8217;s used inappropriately?</p>
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		By: Taft		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12351</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Taft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, do you want to argue dictionary definitions? &#039;Mansplainer&#039; is used as an ad hominem attack for people who disagree with the Skepchicks. The &#039;Skep&#039; part of the brand is increasingly looking misplaced. I suggest looking through some of their threads to see how it&#039;s used (rather than what it might &#039;mean&#039;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, do you want to argue dictionary definitions? &#8216;Mansplainer&#8217; is used as an ad hominem attack for people who disagree with the Skepchicks. The &#8216;Skep&#8217; part of the brand is increasingly looking misplaced. I suggest looking through some of their threads to see how it&#8217;s used (rather than what it might &#8216;mean&#8217;).</p>
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		By: Aratina Cage		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12350</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aratina Cage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@John Mortimer

&lt;blockquote&gt;The curious thing is the claim that one ought to be immune from some idiot on the internet calling one names.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There are two ways this is getting it wrong:

1) Many of the people using misogynistic epithets in this case are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; idiots. Many of them are our peers or betters and highly intelligent people who have typically had (and still have) great ideas. If it were only idiot trolls doing it, then there would be no problem at all! We&#039;d all be denouncing it. 

2) No one is saying that a particular person should be immune from being called names. We are telling the people using misogynistic names to stop it, and we are calling them out on it, and we are discussing why they are wrong to do that and why we oppose it. In fact, the closest someone has come to saying that we should have immunity to being called names was when John C. Welch wrote that we should all be able to brush off &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; derogatory term cast our way--bar none.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John Mortimer</p>
<blockquote><p>The curious thing is the claim that one ought to be immune from some idiot on the internet calling one names.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are two ways this is getting it wrong:</p>
<p>1) Many of the people using misogynistic epithets in this case are <i>not</i> idiots. Many of them are our peers or betters and highly intelligent people who have typically had (and still have) great ideas. If it were only idiot trolls doing it, then there would be no problem at all! We&#8217;d all be denouncing it. </p>
<p>2) No one is saying that a particular person should be immune from being called names. We are telling the people using misogynistic names to stop it, and we are calling them out on it, and we are discussing why they are wrong to do that and why we oppose it. In fact, the closest someone has come to saying that we should have immunity to being called names was when John C. Welch wrote that we should all be able to brush off <i>any</i> derogatory term cast our way&#8211;bar none.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/29/rebecca-watson-i-love-you-stand-by-you-and-wont-tell-mom-about-the-infantile-bloggers-and-commenters/#comment-12349</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s not what &quot;mansplain&quot; means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not what &#8220;mansplain&#8221; means.</p>
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