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		By: Mike Gould		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/24/how-effective-is-the-flu-shot-1/#comment-508315</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Gould]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Greg, YOU&#039;RE a MORON. Pure conjecture with no evidence to back up your bullshit 70-90%. Most people do NOT get the flu anyway. What is the NNT Greg? Or do you even know what that is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg, YOU&#8217;RE a MORON. Pure conjecture with no evidence to back up your bullshit 70-90%. Most people do NOT get the flu anyway. What is the NNT Greg? Or do you even know what that is?</p>
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		By: Warren		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/24/how-effective-is-the-flu-shot-1/#comment-508314</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my totally subjective anecdote.

I work in healthcare (graphics/advertising, actually, for healthcare), and we get our seasonal jabs like everyone else. I&#039;ve had mine 6 years running now.

What&#039;s happened to me - or what I believe I have noticed - is about twice a year I feel just a very little run down, just a very little punky for a couple of days, after which it clears up.

What I believe is happening is I&#039;ve been exposed to one of the flu viri I&#039;ve been vaccinated for, and it&#039;s been flattened by my amped-up immune system.

What I do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; recall is having had these kinds of effects before I worked in healthcare. What I &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; recall from my pre-vaccination days is getting nailed, once a year, by the current damn virus.

In the last six years, I&#039;ve only been hit once.

So do flu shots work? As I see it, in my experience, yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my totally subjective anecdote.</p>
<p>I work in healthcare (graphics/advertising, actually, for healthcare), and we get our seasonal jabs like everyone else. I&#8217;ve had mine 6 years running now.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s happened to me &#8211; or what I believe I have noticed &#8211; is about twice a year I feel just a very little run down, just a very little punky for a couple of days, after which it clears up.</p>
<p>What I believe is happening is I&#8217;ve been exposed to one of the flu viri I&#8217;ve been vaccinated for, and it&#8217;s been flattened by my amped-up immune system.</p>
<p>What I do <i>not</i> recall is having had these kinds of effects before I worked in healthcare. What I <i>do</i> recall from my pre-vaccination days is getting nailed, once a year, by the current damn virus.</p>
<p>In the last six years, I&#8217;ve only been hit once.</p>
<p>So do flu shots work? As I see it, in my experience, yes.</p>
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		By: rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i work at a very large MN company. they give FREE flu shots to any employee. there is always a line to get in. i am scheduled to get mine in a couple weeks. 

to all you anti-vaxx asshats: you&#039;re welcome. i am doing my part to keep you selfish ignorant bastards from getting sick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i work at a very large MN company. they give FREE flu shots to any employee. there is always a line to get in. i am scheduled to get mine in a couple weeks. </p>
<p>to all you anti-vaxx asshats: you&#8217;re welcome. i am doing my part to keep you selfish ignorant bastards from getting sick.</p>
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		By: Monado		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been getting the flu shot for years. After it had been available for several years, the Ontario government made it free for everyone on the grounds that it saved money by eliminating a lot of work time lost to illness and a lot of healthcare costs treating the ill. I haven&#039;t had the flu for years and I don&#039;t miss being &quot;sick as a dog&quot; one bit. 

Meanwhile, Mr. I&#039;m-too-busy-to-get-the-flu-shot has had the flu a couple of times, and each time he pisses and moans about how he hates to be sick. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been getting the flu shot for years. After it had been available for several years, the Ontario government made it free for everyone on the grounds that it saved money by eliminating a lot of work time lost to illness and a lot of healthcare costs treating the ill. I haven&#8217;t had the flu for years and I don&#8217;t miss being &#8220;sick as a dog&#8221; one bit. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, Mr. I&#8217;m-too-busy-to-get-the-flu-shot has had the flu a couple of times, and each time he pisses and moans about how he hates to be sick. </p>
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		By: Monado		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interestingly, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81665/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;past exposure to several vaccines is correlated with a lower risk of Alzheimer&#039;s disease&lt;/a&gt;. Comments?

CMAJ. 2001 November 27; 165(11): 1495â??1498. Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer&#039;s disease. RenÃ© Verreault, Danielle Laurin, Joan Lindsay, and Gaston De Serres. 
PMCID: PMC81665]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC81665/" rel="nofollow">past exposure to several vaccines is correlated with a lower risk of Alzheimer&#8217;s disease</a>. Comments?</p>
<p>CMAJ. 2001 November 27; 165(11): 1495â??1498. Past exposure to vaccines and subsequent risk of Alzheimer&#8217;s disease. RenÃ© Verreault, Danielle Laurin, Joan Lindsay, and Gaston De Serres.<br />
PMCID: PMC81665</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hadn&#039;t noticed, thanks.  

I&#039;m fending off a number of anti-vax commenters. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadn&#8217;t noticed, thanks.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fending off a number of anti-vax commenters. </p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/24/how-effective-is-the-flu-shot-1/#comment-508309</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I do not disagree with the usefulness of influenza vaccination - especially in vulnerable populations and for healthcare providers. I do disagree with getting &#039;flu shots&#039;.&lt;/i&gt;

So you agree with &quot;influenza vaccination,&quot; but disagree with &quot;flu shots?&quot;  What, in your pointlessly hairsplitting little mind, is the diference, exactly?

You sound like a creationist who insists he&#039;s totally okay with evolution, but not with &quot;neo-Darwinism&quot; or &quot;the neo-Darwinian paradigm.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I do not disagree with the usefulness of influenza vaccination &#8211; especially in vulnerable populations and for healthcare providers. I do disagree with getting &#8216;flu shots&#8217;.</i></p>
<p>So you agree with &#8220;influenza vaccination,&#8221; but disagree with &#8220;flu shots?&#8221;  What, in your pointlessly hairsplitting little mind, is the diference, exactly?</p>
<p>You sound like a creationist who insists he&#8217;s totally okay with evolution, but not with &#8220;neo-Darwinism&#8221; or &#8220;the neo-Darwinian paradigm.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Simea mirans		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simea mirans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No doubt you&#039;ve noticed that &quot;ThayCrazyPharmacist&quot;&#039;s comment is reposted here: http://thatcrazypharmacist.com/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt you&#8217;ve noticed that &#8220;ThayCrazyPharmacist&#8221;&#8216;s comment is reposted here: <a href="http://thatcrazypharmacist.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://thatcrazypharmacist.com/</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nope. You were getting close with blastula. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope. You were getting close with blastula. </p>
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		By: Drivebyposter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drivebyposter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 08:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Vincent


I wasn&#039;t aware that the flu shot was costly... 

It is low risk...I suppose. But people die from the flu. People are miserable from the flu. People miss work that they cannot afford to miss because of the flu. Children miss school because of the flu. Again, people die from the flu.

Tell me again, how flu vaccines are &quot;over-servicing?&quot;




@Greg
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Interestingly, despite my requests, no one has identified the symbolism behind &quot;The X Blog&quot; (the name of the blog) even tough the clues are everywhere (especially in the first post). 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The nature of my plan here, a mere blastula of an idea, is partly hidden in the name of this blog, which is a reference to something.  
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hmmm...you are getting a sex change, an experimental sex change that turns all of your Ys to Xs? And then being inseminated with your own semen???!!? YOU MONSTER!!!1@1111!!!



Or perhaps...
&lt;blockquote&gt;
That will be a topic addressed at The X Blog.  You may not realize this, but for reasons that need to remain unspoken (there are rules) I am more than a little responsible, personally, for Michele Bachmannâ??s rise to power.  Ooops.  That certainly isnâ??t what I meant to do, but something I did was instrumental in the advancement of her political career.  I am very, very sorry and I feel the responsibility acutely.  
&lt;b&gt;
So, weâ??ll try to fix that over the next few months, but Iâ??ll need your help. &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
...you&#039;ll be doing something like this...

http://torino.theoffside.com/files/2009/02/simpson-mr-x.jpg

Some sort of tell-all blogoir (blog+memoir)?


Or maybe something X-Files-y? But....more in blog form?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vincent</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that the flu shot was costly&#8230; </p>
<p>It is low risk&#8230;I suppose. But people die from the flu. People are miserable from the flu. People miss work that they cannot afford to miss because of the flu. Children miss school because of the flu. Again, people die from the flu.</p>
<p>Tell me again, how flu vaccines are &#8220;over-servicing?&#8221;</p>
<p>@Greg</p>
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Interestingly, despite my requests, no one has identified the symbolism behind &#8220;The X Blog&#8221; (the name of the blog) even tough the clues are everywhere (especially in the first post).
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The nature of my plan here, a mere blastula of an idea, is partly hidden in the name of this blog, which is a reference to something.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;you are getting a sex change, an experimental sex change that turns all of your Ys to Xs? And then being inseminated with your own semen???!!? YOU MONSTER!!!1@1111!!!</p>
<p>Or perhaps&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
That will be a topic addressed at The X Blog.  You may not realize this, but for reasons that need to remain unspoken (there are rules) I am more than a little responsible, personally, for Michele Bachmannâ??s rise to power.  Ooops.  That certainly isnâ??t what I meant to do, but something I did was instrumental in the advancement of her political career.  I am very, very sorry and I feel the responsibility acutely.<br />
<b><br />
So, weâ??ll try to fix that over the next few months, but Iâ??ll need your help. </b></p>
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<p>&#8230;you&#8217;ll be doing something like this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://torino.theoffside.com/files/2009/02/simpson-mr-x.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://torino.theoffside.com/files/2009/02/simpson-mr-x.jpg</a></p>
<p>Some sort of tell-all blogoir (blog+memoir)?</p>
<p>Or maybe something X-Files-y? But&#8230;.more in blog form?</p>
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