And my, my, would you be surprised if I told you–aw, heck, I will give you a clue–part of my discussion here is actually devoted to revealing the nature of verbal violence of those who claim they are progressives, and particularly–aw, hell, that’s enough for you.

Fighting words, and the relation of ‘progressive ideology’ to imperialistic war fare…

And if something I say is refutable, then refute it, or shut the hell up. You yourself just troll.

And “G-d” is my own personal nod to some of the people who first told me about Gawd, concentration camp Jews–those superstitious, tattooed cultists!

It signified, for them, that you could never speak the real, actual name of Gawd, and could never know ‘his’ purpose. Damn cultists, and that mystical crap theyput in your head about surviving the lunatics and their social policies….

For me, it is my personal decision not to follow all you failed or reformed Catholics and cultists around in the herd,writing it out all the time. Writing ‘G-d’ is my personal protest against even writing what you ppl belabor as discussions about G-d.

You G-d damned stupid fuck.( how does that sort of insult feel, anyways?) You stupid cocksucker…( example of ad himinem..)

But in your case? Likely your insults are a pathological narcissistic impulse, a need to feel superior in a debasing, devolving society.

Also, I am 100% convinced you are suffering from some form of psychosis.

When was I being anti-male?
When did I “attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it”?
I said your claim was stupid, but you are twice as stupid as said claim. Please hold your breath and try to figure out what you are fucking talking about before typing.
I’ll just sit here and keep an eye on the newspapers and see if “Moron Dies From Holding Breath” becomes a headline.

Here’s the franc hoggle proof: “Argumentum ad himinem is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it. Closely related to ad hominem, literal Latin â??to the manâ?, this is instead â??to the maleâ? and removes gender ambiguity. It is however equally applicable to females who inexplicably defend argument as though cum testiculis, or seek to defend indefensible and erroneous male perspectives. Antonym to ad feminam.” http://greylining.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/our-dynamic-and-expanding-vernacular-thanks-becky/

And you said “only about half as stupid as you seem to be. ”

Which is THE CLASSIC ad hom. Now G-d damn you, its Gawd, get it right for Jeebus Crisis sake. Then stick your version of G-d up your ass, where your ‘God’ belongs. There is a place for you Christians and their lawdy somewhere–but keep them away from the kiddies.

tony: BUT still–yo mama, ad feminam.

Perhaps you are thinking of the salute originated by Zog the First.

Anyway, the salute bit of this is interesting and could be further developed. For instance, in saying The Pledge, you are supposed to take off your hat, unless it is a religious hat.Is that giving proper deference to religion or is it accounting for religion?

“G-d” is not in there. It’s in there as “God…” as I said in my last message. It isn’t pronounce “gd” or “gee dee” when spoken. It’s in there as “god.” Have you never heard the pledge before?

Also, try spelling “ad hominem” correctly. And also try using the term correctly.

Regina– the guy who wrote the Pledge was Francis Bellamy. He was a Socialist, but he had zero connection to the National Socialists you mention. The stiff-arm salute was quite common in the first half of the 20th century, in many nations, as were other forms of salute.

In the US, the various flag codes have, as far as I know, always said the two permissible salutes are military (if you are a veteran) and right hand over heart (which itself bears a passing resemblance to the salute used in some nations, though I am not sure it is related).

This hasn’t much to do with whether people should say it or not. The courts are clear — you can’t be forced to do it. The surrounding culture is less so.

An interesting thing to me is that as a kid I got the words completely wrong, as I had no idea (at 6) what the hell they meant. The words “pledge” and “allegiance” in particular stumped me. I said “plezhaleegets” and had no idea.

Idiot–the G-d part is here:”one nation under g-d, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all..”

tony–Idiots abound, and for that matter ‘your mother—yo mama– is pretty stupid’ too… you’re still doing better than straight out ad himinem…