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		By: Christopher Pick ND		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: annp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The recent maxim in politics seems to be, &quot;Never count out anybody who looks good in a hat,&quot; and that keeps Perry in and Pawlenty out. I believe the trend started with Reagan and his cowboy hats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recent maxim in politics seems to be, &#8220;Never count out anybody who looks good in a hat,&#8221; and that keeps Perry in and Pawlenty out. I believe the trend started with Reagan and his cowboy hats.</p>
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		By: tuibguy		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/06/bachmann-campaign-sabotaged/#comment-11346</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Many people, including my mother, thought that Reagan was done for following the 1976 GOP convention.  He was crazy, we thought.  We thought that he had shot all his marbles and lost.  We were wrong.

Maybe 2012 isn&#039;t Bachmann&#039;s year.  Maybe 2016 is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people, including my mother, thought that Reagan was done for following the 1976 GOP convention.  He was crazy, we thought.  We thought that he had shot all his marbles and lost.  We were wrong.</p>
<p>Maybe 2012 isn&#8217;t Bachmann&#8217;s year.  Maybe 2016 is.</p>
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		By: annp		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the moment she started running for the Republican nomination, I thought she would make somebody a great Vice President. And now I think that&#039;s what she&#039;s in it for. What she needs to do though, is get away from these Republican debates where everyone&#039;s trying to make fellow Republicans look bad. If she doesn&#039;t have to confront anybody, she won&#039;t have to step back from anything in order to be a VP. 

Now, I think she&#039;s a lunatic. And I think she&#039;s wrapped up the paranoid-schizophrenic vote, but she doesn&#039;t even need to be on a ticket for that crowd. But as VP  she would wrap up the Religious Right vote, the anti-gay vote, and the Government sucks because it&#039;s trying to take away my light bulbs vote. And as such, she&#039;d be a plus for anybody except Rick Perry, who has already made great strides along those lines. So, we&#039;ll see if she drops out soon, citing problems with &#039;fundraising&#039; or &#039;time away from my duties as a congressional representative&#039; but not &#039;this process was grueling and inhuman and anybody running for President is probably a pathological narcissist&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the moment she started running for the Republican nomination, I thought she would make somebody a great Vice President. And now I think that&#8217;s what she&#8217;s in it for. What she needs to do though, is get away from these Republican debates where everyone&#8217;s trying to make fellow Republicans look bad. If she doesn&#8217;t have to confront anybody, she won&#8217;t have to step back from anything in order to be a VP. </p>
<p>Now, I think she&#8217;s a lunatic. And I think she&#8217;s wrapped up the paranoid-schizophrenic vote, but she doesn&#8217;t even need to be on a ticket for that crowd. But as VP  she would wrap up the Religious Right vote, the anti-gay vote, and the Government sucks because it&#8217;s trying to take away my light bulbs vote. And as such, she&#8217;d be a plus for anybody except Rick Perry, who has already made great strides along those lines. So, we&#8217;ll see if she drops out soon, citing problems with &#8216;fundraising&#8217; or &#8216;time away from my duties as a congressional representative&#8217; but not &#8216;this process was grueling and inhuman and anybody running for President is probably a pathological narcissist&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Art		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 21:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bachmann, and to some extent Palin, Perry and the rest of the right-wing crazy machine, are freak show oddities. 

On one hand there is the very human desire to see a spectacle. If it was announced that &#039;the Mexican air force is going to crash land in a liquid natural gas facility&#039; I would try to keep people safe but I would also have someone save me a good seat to watch it from. 

If it is going to happen anyway, no matter what you may do, you  might as well get comfortable and take in the spectacle. It would be a shame to miss it. 

On the other hand what the GOP has done to the US makes Mel Gibson&#039;s snuff film look like a depiction of casual street violence. This has been planned, coordinated, structured, times, and orchestrated over something north of forty years. And, whereas Gibson&#039;s concern is the suffering of but one, this involves hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of non-Americans. The time, toil, mental health, and blood of vast numbers of human beings. 

It would be a shame to miss seeing the pivotal points and spectacular action. But, in a very profound way, we are all on the metaphoric planes about to crash. In short order we will be in pain and surrounded by the wreckage of our once great nation and our once comfortable lives. It would be a shame to be so caught up in our workaday lives to miss the wider spectacle. It would be a shame to find ourselves broken and not know how we got there. 

So yes, take the time to set back and observe after you have a good laugh, and a cry. &quot;Embrace the horror&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bachmann, and to some extent Palin, Perry and the rest of the right-wing crazy machine, are freak show oddities. </p>
<p>On one hand there is the very human desire to see a spectacle. If it was announced that &#8216;the Mexican air force is going to crash land in a liquid natural gas facility&#8217; I would try to keep people safe but I would also have someone save me a good seat to watch it from. </p>
<p>If it is going to happen anyway, no matter what you may do, you  might as well get comfortable and take in the spectacle. It would be a shame to miss it. </p>
<p>On the other hand what the GOP has done to the US makes Mel Gibson&#8217;s snuff film look like a depiction of casual street violence. This has been planned, coordinated, structured, times, and orchestrated over something north of forty years. And, whereas Gibson&#8217;s concern is the suffering of but one, this involves hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of non-Americans. The time, toil, mental health, and blood of vast numbers of human beings. </p>
<p>It would be a shame to miss seeing the pivotal points and spectacular action. But, in a very profound way, we are all on the metaphoric planes about to crash. In short order we will be in pain and surrounded by the wreckage of our once great nation and our once comfortable lives. It would be a shame to be so caught up in our workaday lives to miss the wider spectacle. It would be a shame to find ourselves broken and not know how we got there. </p>
<p>So yes, take the time to set back and observe after you have a good laugh, and a cry. &#8220;Embrace the horror&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/06/bachmann-campaign-sabotaged/#comment-11341&quot;&gt;chris y&lt;/a&gt;.

Modified statement about Nixon: After his Checkers speech, no one expected him to become president.   Even him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/06/bachmann-campaign-sabotaged/#comment-11341">chris y</a>.</p>
<p>Modified statement about Nixon: After his Checkers speech, no one expected him to become president.   Even him.</p>
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		By: Chris Lines		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/06/bachmann-campaign-sabotaged/#comment-11342</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember the Reagan win all too well.  Quick side notes about this is that it was the infamous &#039;october surprise&#039; that helped Reagan win. The hostages were still being held captive in Iran via a deal that the Reagan campaign handlers worked out with the Iranians to hang on to the hostages until after the election in exchange for weapons,  etc.  Some might remember that the hostages were released on Reagan&#039;s inauguration day.  

I read in another story about Rollins leaving that Bachmann is infamous on the hill for her top staff leaving in a somewhat to fairly consistent basis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the Reagan win all too well.  Quick side notes about this is that it was the infamous &#8216;october surprise&#8217; that helped Reagan win. The hostages were still being held captive in Iran via a deal that the Reagan campaign handlers worked out with the Iranians to hang on to the hostages until after the election in exchange for weapons,  etc.  Some might remember that the hostages were released on Reagan&#8217;s inauguration day.  </p>
<p>I read in another story about Rollins leaving that Bachmann is infamous on the hill for her top staff leaving in a somewhat to fairly consistent basis.</p>
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		By: chris y		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Many of you are too young to remember how utterly absurd the idea was that Ronald Reagan would be elected president.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmWLJmbytkk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yes, it did seem unlikely at the time&lt;/a&gt;. But this is one of those cases where you take 10c from a dollar and everybody says, &quot;look you&#039;ve got money left, what are you worried about?&quot; And then you do it again and again, until everybody is used to the fact that every time you take 10c from a dollar, there&#039;s money left. And then it&#039;s then tenth time - what happened?

You&#039;re wrong about Nixon though. The old crook was a professional politician to the bone, and he was always a serious runner. He might have won in 1960, but for Richard Daley, and in &#039;68 Humphrey was a lousy candidate and the Democratic Convention events were enough to alienate any independent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Many of you are too young to remember how utterly absurd the idea was that Ronald Reagan would be elected president.</em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmWLJmbytkk" rel="nofollow">Yes, it did seem unlikely at the time</a>. But this is one of those cases where you take 10c from a dollar and everybody says, &#8220;look you&#8217;ve got money left, what are you worried about?&#8221; And then you do it again and again, until everybody is used to the fact that every time you take 10c from a dollar, there&#8217;s money left. And then it&#8217;s then tenth time &#8211; what happened?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re wrong about Nixon though. The old crook was a professional politician to the bone, and he was always a serious runner. He might have won in 1960, but for Richard Daley, and in &#8217;68 Humphrey was a lousy candidate and the Democratic Convention events were enough to alienate any independent.</p>
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		By: Lou Jost		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/09/06/bachmann-campaign-sabotaged/#comment-11340</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@cullen wrote &quot;I hope she wins the nomination. Not only will Obama win at a walk...&quot; We said similar things about Reagan in his first presidential campaign. I remember it very well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cullen wrote &#8220;I hope she wins the nomination. Not only will Obama win at a walk&#8230;&#8221; We said similar things about Reagan in his first presidential campaign. I remember it very well.</p>
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		By: rwahrens		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem for her is that even if the gaffes WERE sabotage, her failure to figure out who was doing it and put a stop to it says little good about her ability to manage a modern office.  

If the gaffes were hers, then she is an idiot, and if they were orchestrated as deliberate sabotage, then she is an incompetent idiot (both for not catching the saboteur and for not catching the gaffes in the first place).

Not much of a choice there, is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for her is that even if the gaffes WERE sabotage, her failure to figure out who was doing it and put a stop to it says little good about her ability to manage a modern office.  </p>
<p>If the gaffes were hers, then she is an idiot, and if they were orchestrated as deliberate sabotage, then she is an incompetent idiot (both for not catching the saboteur and for not catching the gaffes in the first place).</p>
<p>Not much of a choice there, is it?</p>
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