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		By: Li D		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/08/18/no-place-to-sit-down/#comment-697087</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s definitely a split in Australia between those that will comfortably sit on  dirt  (excluding beach, and even then some put down cloth barriers) and those that wont. 
Me and colleagues have discussed it.
Many people seem to be, not phobic, but just very uncomfortable about it. 
I could guess it&#039;s unfamiliarity due to minimal agricultural or gardening exposure, but it would only be a guess. 
Haha. I remember being invited to view a rose garden in Bihar and the hosts surprised face when I grabbed a handful of soil to look at more closely. Seemed to be some weird assumed  caste mentality thing. Fuck that oppressive  shit right off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s definitely a split in Australia between those that will comfortably sit on  dirt  (excluding beach, and even then some put down cloth barriers) and those that wont.<br />
Me and colleagues have discussed it.<br />
Many people seem to be, not phobic, but just very uncomfortable about it.<br />
I could guess it&#8217;s unfamiliarity due to minimal agricultural or gardening exposure, but it would only be a guess.<br />
Haha. I remember being invited to view a rose garden in Bihar and the hosts surprised face when I grabbed a handful of soil to look at more closely. Seemed to be some weird assumed  caste mentality thing. Fuck that oppressive  shit right off.</p>
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		By: Li D		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/08/18/no-place-to-sit-down/#comment-697077</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2019 06:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just came across this research which may interest people who hang out with lots of bitey bugs. Seems bugs don&#039;t like stripes as much as no stripes.

https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/body-painting-protects-against-bloodsucking-insects

Now I woulda thought caking on mud, paint whatever would be worth a shot. No stripes, just all over. Maybe some mob do do that. 
Dunno about any indigionous insect repellant 
lotions but I&#039;d be amazed if they wernt developed. I was actually wondering about traditional tick medicine in Australia a few months ago and looked it up but found zilch.
Was thinking some sort of topical poison and some sort of tweezer tool. And maybe some antihistamine sorta thing.

Whilst searching for the right spot to put this,
an old baseball/softball?  match report mentioned Greg covered in paint and I&#039;m including a link for him to reminisce.

https://birdfreak.com/i-and-the-bird-103-take-me-out-to-the-ballgame/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across this research which may interest people who hang out with lots of bitey bugs. Seems bugs don&#8217;t like stripes as much as no stripes.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/body-painting-protects-against-bloodsucking-insects" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/body-painting-protects-against-bloodsucking-insects</a></p>
<p>Now I woulda thought caking on mud, paint whatever would be worth a shot. No stripes, just all over. Maybe some mob do do that.<br />
Dunno about any indigionous insect repellant<br />
lotions but I&#8217;d be amazed if they wernt developed. I was actually wondering about traditional tick medicine in Australia a few months ago and looked it up but found zilch.<br />
Was thinking some sort of topical poison and some sort of tweezer tool. And maybe some antihistamine sorta thing.</p>
<p>Whilst searching for the right spot to put this,<br />
an old baseball/softball?  match report mentioned Greg covered in paint and I&#8217;m including a link for him to reminisce.</p>
<p><a href="https://birdfreak.com/i-and-the-bird-103-take-me-out-to-the-ballgame/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://birdfreak.com/i-and-the-bird-103-take-me-out-to-the-ballgame/</a></p>
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		By: spor haberleri		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/08/18/no-place-to-sit-down/#comment-507119</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[super comments. I want to thank you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>super comments. I want to thank you</p>
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		By: Sleazeweazel		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/08/18/no-place-to-sit-down/#comment-507118</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;d be careful about the log, there&#039;s probably a snake under it!&quot;

Oddly enough that has only happened once. I&#039;m a herper and my favorite thing to do is to roll over logs looking for snakes so I like to think I have an eye for such things. Nevertheless I had been sitting on a small log in Tennessee for the better part of an hour when I looked between my legs to discover a copperhead with its head cocked so as to best evaluate the infrared signature of my testicles. It had to have been there the whole time just tucked under the edge of the log. 

Snakes I can take, but back in Belize what bothers me are the Eurycotis roaches which are the size of a breadbox(thus slightly larger than the ones here in north Florida). Yes, I know they are perfectly harmless, as are the giant katydids, but what does that have to do with anything? I fear them even more than the enormous black scorpions and foot long centipedes. The smell of the Eurycotis is so loathsome that I cannot bear to be in the same room with someone eating liquorice. Their spiny legs are four inches long and I can hear their individual footsteps in the night as they come to clean my teeth while I snore with open mouth. You might think that is the product of a fevered imagination, but one time my ex wife actually pulled one of those huge spiny legs out of her butt! Relative to all that I find the Amblypygiids to be positively cute! 

All of this I learned due to my inability to sit cross legged on the ground, but I must be a slow learned cuz I&#039;m headed back to Laos for more fun!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d be careful about the log, there&#8217;s probably a snake under it!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oddly enough that has only happened once. I&#8217;m a herper and my favorite thing to do is to roll over logs looking for snakes so I like to think I have an eye for such things. Nevertheless I had been sitting on a small log in Tennessee for the better part of an hour when I looked between my legs to discover a copperhead with its head cocked so as to best evaluate the infrared signature of my testicles. It had to have been there the whole time just tucked under the edge of the log. </p>
<p>Snakes I can take, but back in Belize what bothers me are the Eurycotis roaches which are the size of a breadbox(thus slightly larger than the ones here in north Florida). Yes, I know they are perfectly harmless, as are the giant katydids, but what does that have to do with anything? I fear them even more than the enormous black scorpions and foot long centipedes. The smell of the Eurycotis is so loathsome that I cannot bear to be in the same room with someone eating liquorice. Their spiny legs are four inches long and I can hear their individual footsteps in the night as they come to clean my teeth while I snore with open mouth. You might think that is the product of a fevered imagination, but one time my ex wife actually pulled one of those huge spiny legs out of her butt! Relative to all that I find the Amblypygiids to be positively cute! </p>
<p>All of this I learned due to my inability to sit cross legged on the ground, but I must be a slow learned cuz I&#8217;m headed back to Laos for more fun!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;You are missing the point. It is not about bugs but rather the discomfort of not having something to lean against.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, maybe you have a point about leaning on things, but the conversation is not subject to interpretation.  This is a person I knew quite well for years, was related to, and who often told the same stories again and again, so I&#039;m pretty sure I got the original message right! 

&lt;em&gt;Some people can sit on the ground and some can&#039;t. .. and a log to sit on or lean against. &lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;d be careful about the log, there&#039;s probably a snake under it!

&lt;em&gt;Much worse is the situation in Thailand, Laos, and elsewhere where sitting on the floor is considered the norm&lt;/em&gt;

Tell me about it. I&#039;m not a big sitter-on-the-floorer either and I had a hard time in that region.

&lt;em&gt;In remote villages you are expected to sit Buddha style for hours during welcoming ceremonies&lt;/em&gt;

That would be especially impossible for me now since that time &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/02/greg_messes_up_the_triple_lutz.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my leg almost fell off&lt;/a&gt;.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>You are missing the point. It is not about bugs but rather the discomfort of not having something to lean against.</em></p>
<p>Well, maybe you have a point about leaning on things, but the conversation is not subject to interpretation.  This is a person I knew quite well for years, was related to, and who often told the same stories again and again, so I&#8217;m pretty sure I got the original message right! </p>
<p><em>Some people can sit on the ground and some can&#8217;t. .. and a log to sit on or lean against. </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be careful about the log, there&#8217;s probably a snake under it!</p>
<p><em>Much worse is the situation in Thailand, Laos, and elsewhere where sitting on the floor is considered the norm</em></p>
<p>Tell me about it. I&#8217;m not a big sitter-on-the-floorer either and I had a hard time in that region.</p>
<p><em>In remote villages you are expected to sit Buddha style for hours during welcoming ceremonies</em></p>
<p>That would be especially impossible for me now since that time <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/02/greg_messes_up_the_triple_lutz.php" rel="nofollow">my leg almost fell off</a>.  </p>
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		By: Sleazeweazel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are missing the point. It is not about bugs but rather the discomfort of not having something to lean against. Some people can sit on the ground and some can&#039;t. I have destroyed both of my feet in mountain climbing and construction accidents and canâ??t. In the jungle I invariably make camp based on three factors, the proximity of water, flat ground for a tent, and a log to sit on or lean against. You want bugs? (and scorpions and centipedes?) Just find a friendly big log in Belize or some other such place and lean against it for a few hours every night while reading War and Peace (Which I did in its entirety under such circumstances). You become one with the log and the resident big and little monsters accept your neck as part of the furniture. It is actually a lot of fun. Much worse is the situation in Thailand, Laos, and elsewhere where sitting on the floor is considered the norm and anyone who sits above anyone else, or who leans against something with their legs stretched out, thus pointing the bottoms of your feet at someone else, has committed a grave breach of propriety. In remote villages you are expected to sit Buddha style for hours during welcoming ceremonies and while eating and socializing. The only solution I have found is accept my role as an ugly American while in villages by refusing to sit on the floor, and to carry a thermarest pad with chair kit in the jungle. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the point. It is not about bugs but rather the discomfort of not having something to lean against. Some people can sit on the ground and some can&#8217;t. I have destroyed both of my feet in mountain climbing and construction accidents and canâ??t. In the jungle I invariably make camp based on three factors, the proximity of water, flat ground for a tent, and a log to sit on or lean against. You want bugs? (and scorpions and centipedes?) Just find a friendly big log in Belize or some other such place and lean against it for a few hours every night while reading War and Peace (Which I did in its entirety under such circumstances). You become one with the log and the resident big and little monsters accept your neck as part of the furniture. It is actually a lot of fun. Much worse is the situation in Thailand, Laos, and elsewhere where sitting on the floor is considered the norm and anyone who sits above anyone else, or who leans against something with their legs stretched out, thus pointing the bottoms of your feet at someone else, has committed a grave breach of propriety. In remote villages you are expected to sit Buddha style for hours during welcoming ceremonies and while eating and socializing. The only solution I have found is accept my role as an ugly American while in villages by refusing to sit on the floor, and to carry a thermarest pad with chair kit in the jungle. </p>
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		By: Scotlyn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, I&#039;m properly teased, and about to click on the &quot;tell&quot; post, but I have a great memory of an old Irish woman commenting on the humble midge, tiny insect nemesis of Irish summers.  She liked to say, &quot;a midge is a thing, that if it was the size of a horse, it would eat the world.&quot;  And follow with, &quot;Mind you don&#039;t slap them, though, or they&#039;ll all be along for the funeral.&quot;

Clicking now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;m properly teased, and about to click on the &#8220;tell&#8221; post, but I have a great memory of an old Irish woman commenting on the humble midge, tiny insect nemesis of Irish summers.  She liked to say, &#8220;a midge is a thing, that if it was the size of a horse, it would eat the world.&#8221;  And follow with, &#8220;Mind you don&#8217;t slap them, though, or they&#8217;ll all be along for the funeral.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clicking now.</p>
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		By: toto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Provence of North America&lt;/i&gt;

An appropriate typo, since some parts of Provence (especially swamp-ish &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Camargue&lt;/a&gt;) get infested with swarms of mosquitoes and midges as soon as summer sets in.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Provence of North America</i></p>
<p>An appropriate typo, since some parts of Provence (especially swamp-ish <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue" rel="nofollow">Camargue</a>) get infested with swarms of mosquitoes and midges as soon as summer sets in.</p>
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		By: Monado		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It might bring bad luck? It might be someone they used to know? It might be a supernatural visitor testing them?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might bring bad luck? It might be someone they used to know? It might be a supernatural visitor testing them?</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 01:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/08/the_reason_the_efe_wont_normal.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The reason the Efe won&#039;t normally kill an insect that has wandered into their camp if they don&#039;t know anything about it a priori is ...&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/08/the_reason_the_efe_wont_normal.php" rel="nofollow">The reason the Efe won&#8217;t normally kill an insect that has wandered into their camp if they don&#8217;t know anything about it a priori is &#8230;</a></p>
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