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		By: Matt Hagen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Hagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg:

I got this form a 2009 survey done by the University of Illinois. So the data is three years old. Here&#039;s the site http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-01/uoia-ssa011609.php . A 2010 survey was done with similar results.
The American Meteorological Society, however, does agree with
the rest of the scientific community on mans influence on climate change.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>I got this form a 2009 survey done by the University of Illinois. So the data is three years old. Here&#8217;s the site <a href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-01/uoia-ssa011609.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-01/uoia-ssa011609.php</a> . A 2010 survey was done with similar results.<br />
The American Meteorological Society, however, does agree with<br />
the rest of the scientific community on mans influence on climate change.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt, what is your source for those numbers on &quot;meteorologists&quot; ... I&#039;m pretty sure that is changing.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, what is your source for those numbers on &#8220;meteorologists&#8221; &#8230; I&#8217;m pretty sure that is changing.  </p>
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		By: Matt Hagen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506051</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Hagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry the above comment was for the climate change initiative blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry the above comment was for the climate change initiative blog.</p>
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		By: Matt Hagen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506050</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Hagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Religion has no place in our schools. That is why we do not allow prayer in school. If we did, who would choose which religious beliefs to teach. Teach what you want in your own place of worship. There is no need to tie Science with religion. Science is based on facts and religion is based on beliefs. The scientific community is 90% certain that the earth is warming due to man&#039;s burning of fossil fuels. 97% of climate scientists believe climate change is caused from the burning of fossil fuels. So does the International Panel on Climate change, NASA, U.S. Global Change Research Program, International Arctic Science Committee, American Association for the Advancement of Science and at least 32 national science academies around the world. Its time the propaganda spread by the fossil fuel industry is put to rest. We need to tell our elected officials to stop listening to corporate lobbyists and do the work of the people. Log onto http://greensentry.net/index.html to see how.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion has no place in our schools. That is why we do not allow prayer in school. If we did, who would choose which religious beliefs to teach. Teach what you want in your own place of worship. There is no need to tie Science with religion. Science is based on facts and religion is based on beliefs. The scientific community is 90% certain that the earth is warming due to man&#8217;s burning of fossil fuels. 97% of climate scientists believe climate change is caused from the burning of fossil fuels. So does the International Panel on Climate change, NASA, U.S. Global Change Research Program, International Arctic Science Committee, American Association for the Advancement of Science and at least 32 national science academies around the world. Its time the propaganda spread by the fossil fuel industry is put to rest. We need to tell our elected officials to stop listening to corporate lobbyists and do the work of the people. Log onto <a href="http://greensentry.net/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://greensentry.net/index.html</a> to see how.</p>
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		By: Matt Hagen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506049</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 04:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The predominant scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth&#039;s climate system is unequivocally warming and it is more than 90% certain that humans are causing it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. This opinion is shared by 97% of climate scientists. Petroleum geologists and meteorologists are among the biggest doubters, with only 47 and 64 percent respectively believing in human involvement. It stands to reason that Petroleum geologists may have a conflict of interest and meteorologists only look at short term weather conditions. Fossil-fuel companies like Exxon and Peabody Energy â?? which obviously have a business interest in slowing any attempt to reduce carbon emissions â?? have combined with traditionally conservative corporate groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and conservative foundations like the Koch brothers&#039; Americans for Prosperity, to raise doubts about the basic validity of what is, essentially, a settled scientific truth.
All of the American broadcast media, and most of the print media as well, are owned primarily by wealthy individuals. Direct ties to the biggest of big businesses are almost unbelievably extensive. Big tobacco companies used this same tactic of denial and claims of scientific uncertainty and they got away with it for decades. Isn&#039;t it time the American people woke up and realized the obvious. Log on to
http://greensentry.net/index.html and make your voice heard.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The predominant scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth&#8217;s climate system is unequivocally warming and it is more than 90% certain that humans are causing it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. This opinion is shared by 97% of climate scientists. Petroleum geologists and meteorologists are among the biggest doubters, with only 47 and 64 percent respectively believing in human involvement. It stands to reason that Petroleum geologists may have a conflict of interest and meteorologists only look at short term weather conditions. Fossil-fuel companies like Exxon and Peabody Energy â?? which obviously have a business interest in slowing any attempt to reduce carbon emissions â?? have combined with traditionally conservative corporate groups like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and conservative foundations like the Koch brothers&#8217; Americans for Prosperity, to raise doubts about the basic validity of what is, essentially, a settled scientific truth.<br />
All of the American broadcast media, and most of the print media as well, are owned primarily by wealthy individuals. Direct ties to the biggest of big businesses are almost unbelievably extensive. Big tobacco companies used this same tactic of denial and claims of scientific uncertainty and they got away with it for decades. Isn&#8217;t it time the American people woke up and realized the obvious. Log on to<br />
<a href="http://greensentry.net/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://greensentry.net/index.html</a> and make your voice heard.</p>
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		By: Russell C		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 17:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...More common as in how many of them happen per year....&quot;

One more bit to add, for those not living in the area: I may have been too subtle about it in my post at the very top, but these dust storms do NOT blow out of a clear blue sky. They are entirely the result of the thunderstorm downdrafts I mentioned. Yes, we do have dusty winds here at other times of the year, but always within sight of the &#039;epic&#039; dust clouds discussed here are huge thunderstorms, either in the process of dying out or getting bigger. Immediately following the dust storm I was in two days ago at the east of the valley was a 1/2&quot; deluge of rain.

In this case, I don&#039;t see how we can have have predictions of worsening drought brought on by global warming, and increasing thunderstorm-caused dust storms. More dust storms like this = more water content in the air = increased likelihood of rain = more plantlife to retain the dust = ultimately less dust storms..... right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;More common as in how many of them happen per year&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>One more bit to add, for those not living in the area: I may have been too subtle about it in my post at the very top, but these dust storms do NOT blow out of a clear blue sky. They are entirely the result of the thunderstorm downdrafts I mentioned. Yes, we do have dusty winds here at other times of the year, but always within sight of the &#8216;epic&#8217; dust clouds discussed here are huge thunderstorms, either in the process of dying out or getting bigger. Immediately following the dust storm I was in two days ago at the east of the valley was a 1/2&#8243; deluge of rain.</p>
<p>In this case, I don&#8217;t see how we can have have predictions of worsening drought brought on by global warming, and increasing thunderstorm-caused dust storms. More dust storms like this = more water content in the air = increased likelihood of rain = more plantlife to retain the dust = ultimately less dust storms&#8230;.. right?</p>
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		By: RC		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506047</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...you must have been out of town because the July 5th duststorm was not a run of the mill event that happens a few times every summer...&quot;

Afraid not on that point. I was right in the center of it. I also was in two dust storms that preceded the July 5 one by several weeks, and in the one that came a week after it. Those other dust storms were the typical sandy gritty types with other bits of debris in them. The July 5 one had the unique quality of carrying the finest powder I&#039;ve ever personally seen, which is why it looked so impressive along with its aftermath. My apartment complex looked like a nuclear holocaust nightmare the morning after.

The hitch here concerns Masters saying &quot;...the amount of dust the storm carried could be attributed to the severe drought conditions the region has been experiencing...&quot; If that kind of fine powder was NOT seen in the others, or even the one that occurred just last night, then how is the July 5 one any direct indication of the severe drought? Couldn&#039;t it instead be that a highly unusual source of extra powdery dust was simply picked up in the south Chandler/Gilbert area? I believe our rainfall last year was at normal, and I heard we are right now only less than an inch off normal accumulation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;you must have been out of town because the July 5th duststorm was not a run of the mill event that happens a few times every summer&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Afraid not on that point. I was right in the center of it. I also was in two dust storms that preceded the July 5 one by several weeks, and in the one that came a week after it. Those other dust storms were the typical sandy gritty types with other bits of debris in them. The July 5 one had the unique quality of carrying the finest powder I&#8217;ve ever personally seen, which is why it looked so impressive along with its aftermath. My apartment complex looked like a nuclear holocaust nightmare the morning after.</p>
<p>The hitch here concerns Masters saying &#8220;&#8230;the amount of dust the storm carried could be attributed to the severe drought conditions the region has been experiencing&#8230;&#8221; If that kind of fine powder was NOT seen in the others, or even the one that occurred just last night, then how is the July 5 one any direct indication of the severe drought? Couldn&#8217;t it instead be that a highly unusual source of extra powdery dust was simply picked up in the south Chandler/Gilbert area? I believe our rainfall last year was at normal, and I heard we are right now only less than an inch off normal accumulation.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: John Douglas Swallow		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/29/climate-change-update/#comment-506045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Douglas Swallow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Achrachno:  Here is another site that you can set straight on your &quot;Not the Hottest Day On Record&quot; crusade.
This a  good site to find records and I could care less if you believe them or not.  Make up some of your own that suit you better.
&quot;Warmest Days in US History: 134 F. Recorded at the Greenland Ranch in Death Valley on July 10, 1913. For a time, this also was the warmest recorded temperature in World History. It was surpassed less than ten years later, however, when a temperature of 136 was recorded in the Sahara Desert at Al Azizia, Libya, on Sept. 13, 1922.&quot; 
http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/coldest_and_warmest_days_in_the_united_states/

Here is one for you to ponder; but, I notice that when Greg mentions HOT events, then that is a sign of Climate Change use to be known as anthropogenic global warming until the warming stopped in 1998, but when it is COLD events it is always just a weather thing.  Floods and fires,  famines in Somalia  have more to do with the horrible Islamic caused  break down of all social functions, and I&#039;ve even heard that the earth quakes are caused by this climate change brought about by CO2,  If you believe all of this, you are not too bright.
30th December 2010 
&quot;BRITAINâ??S winter is the coldest since 1683 and close to being the chilliest in nearly 1,000 years.
Latest figures reveal that the average temperature since December 1 has been a perishing -1C. 
That makes it the second coldest since records began in 1659. 
The chilliest on record was 1683/84, when the average was -1.17C and the River Thames froze over for two months.&quot;
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/169577/Winter-may-be-coldest-in-1000-years/
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Achrachno:  Here is another site that you can set straight on your &#8220;Not the Hottest Day On Record&#8221; crusade.<br />
This a  good site to find records and I could care less if you believe them or not.  Make up some of your own that suit you better.<br />
&#8220;Warmest Days in US History: 134 F. Recorded at the Greenland Ranch in Death Valley on July 10, 1913. For a time, this also was the warmest recorded temperature in World History. It was surpassed less than ten years later, however, when a temperature of 136 was recorded in the Sahara Desert at Al Azizia, Libya, on Sept. 13, 1922.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/coldest_and_warmest_days_in_the_united_states/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.epicdisasters.com/index.php/site/comments/coldest_and_warmest_days_in_the_united_states/</a></p>
<p>Here is one for you to ponder; but, I notice that when Greg mentions HOT events, then that is a sign of Climate Change use to be known as anthropogenic global warming until the warming stopped in 1998, but when it is COLD events it is always just a weather thing.  Floods and fires,  famines in Somalia  have more to do with the horrible Islamic caused  break down of all social functions, and I&#8217;ve even heard that the earth quakes are caused by this climate change brought about by CO2,  If you believe all of this, you are not too bright.<br />
30th December 2010<br />
&#8220;BRITAINâ??S winter is the coldest since 1683 and close to being the chilliest in nearly 1,000 years.<br />
Latest figures reveal that the average temperature since December 1 has been a perishing -1C.<br />
That makes it the second coldest since records began in 1659.<br />
The chilliest on record was 1683/84, when the average was -1.17C and the River Thames froze over for two months.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/169577/Winter-may-be-coldest-in-1000-years/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/169577/Winter-may-be-coldest-in-1000-years/</a></p>
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		By: John Douglas Swallow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Douglas Swallow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NJ: How interesting that you can attempt to use my name to be used for some childish sort of insinuation as to where I get my information.  I, unlike you, at least get some information regarding this issue from many sources and I hate to burst your CO2 bubble but Fox News is not one of them, since I live in Thailand.  Speaking of Thailand, be aware of this FACT:
&quot;20 provinces in Thailand facing winter disaster
Submitted 1 day ago  [12-19, 2010]
The Thai Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation on Sunday declared winter disaster zone in northern and northeastern 20 provinces in Thailand.
Director-General of the Department Viboon Sanguanpong said people in 10 northern provinces as well as another 10 provinces in northeastern part are currently suffering from harsh winter.
The temperature in those 20 provinces has been lower than eight degree Celsius.
According to the Director-General, a special relief center has been set up following an instruction from Interior Ministry and winter stricken provinces will be primarily granted one million baht (33,168 U.S. dollars) for initial mitigation.&quot;

Why don&#039;t you use your own name and not hide behind a phony two letter identity like NJ?  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJ: How interesting that you can attempt to use my name to be used for some childish sort of insinuation as to where I get my information.  I, unlike you, at least get some information regarding this issue from many sources and I hate to burst your CO2 bubble but Fox News is not one of them, since I live in Thailand.  Speaking of Thailand, be aware of this FACT:<br />
&#8220;20 provinces in Thailand facing winter disaster<br />
Submitted 1 day ago  [12-19, 2010]<br />
The Thai Department of Disaster Prevention and Mitigation on Sunday declared winter disaster zone in northern and northeastern 20 provinces in Thailand.<br />
Director-General of the Department Viboon Sanguanpong said people in 10 northern provinces as well as another 10 provinces in northeastern part are currently suffering from harsh winter.<br />
The temperature in those 20 provinces has been lower than eight degree Celsius.<br />
According to the Director-General, a special relief center has been set up following an instruction from Interior Ministry and winter stricken provinces will be primarily granted one million baht (33,168 U.S. dollars) for initial mitigation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you use your own name and not hide behind a phony two letter identity like NJ?  </p>
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