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		By: Keith Greene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: phil		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama isnt causing the republicans to turn off their web sites they have all been off for weeks....]]></description>
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		By: Keith Greene		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Todays lessson fot the left. More to come if the left &quot;intellect&quot; can deal with fact.

Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Obama&#039;s Entry into Politics:

In the mid-1990s, Obama developed a friendship with fellow Chicagoans Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn, university professors who hosted meetings at their home to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois state senate in 1996. Ayers (who contributed money to Obamaâ??s 1996 campaign) and Dohrn had been leaders of the 1960s domestic terrorist group Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society. The pair had participated personally in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972. To this day, both have remained unrepentant about their former terrorist activities and their hatred of the United States.[4]

There is compelling evidence suggesting that Ayers contributed heavily, if not entirely, to the writing of Obama&#039;s 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father. 

When questioned about his relationship with Ayers during an April 2008 Democratic primary debate, Obama responded: 

â??This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who is a professor of English in Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He is not somebody who I exchange ideas from [with] on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts forty years ago when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn&#039;t make much sense â?¦ [T]his kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, [that] somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. Theyâ??re not gonna suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isnâ??t.â? 

Chicago Annenberg Challenge and Bill Ayers:

But in reality, Obama&#039;s ties to Ayers were deep and longstanding. In 1995, for instance, Obama was appointed as the first Chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), a â??school reform organizationâ? founded by Ayers, who would later write, in his book Teaching Toward Freedom, that his educational objective was to â??teach against oppressionâ? as embodied in â??Americaâ??s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.â?

When National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz in 2008 asked the Obama presidential campaign about the nature of its candidate&#039;s connection to Ayers and the CAC, the campaign issued a statement claiming that Ayers had not been involved in the â??recruitmentâ? of Obama to the CAC board in 1995. But when Kurtz reviewed the CAC archives at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois, he found that Ayers in fact had been one of five members of a working group that assembled the initial CAC board which hired Obama.

â??Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit,â? Kurtz wrote in September 2008. â??No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.â? According to Kurtz, the CAC archives show that Obama and Ayers worked as a team to advance the foundation&#039;s agenda -- with Obama responsible for fiscal matters while Ayers focused on shaping educational policy. The archived documents further reveal that Ayers served as an ex-officio member of the board that Obama chaired through CAC&#039;s first year; that Ayers served with Obama on the CAC governance committee; and that Ayers worked with Obama to write CACâ??s bylaws.

A September 2008 WorldNetDaily report offers still more details: 

â??Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Obama. Ayers also spoke for the Chicago School Reform Collaborative before Obama&#039;s board, while Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the collaborative â?¦ According to the documents, the CAC granted money to far-leftist causes, such as the radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which â?¦has done work on behalf of Obama&#039;s presidential campaign.â? 

WorldNetDaily reported further that â??while Obama chaired the board of the CAC, more than $600,000 was granted to an organization founded by Ayers and run by Mike Klonsky, a former top communist activist. Klonsky was leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party, which was effectively recognized by China as the all-but-official U.S. Maoist party.â? Said Stanley Kurtz: 

â??Instead of funding schools directly, [the CAC] required schools to affiliate with â??external partners,â?? which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as ACORN.â? 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todays lessson fot the left. More to come if the left &#8220;intellect&#8221; can deal with fact.</p>
<p>Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Obama&#8217;s Entry into Politics:</p>
<p>In the mid-1990s, Obama developed a friendship with fellow Chicagoans Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn, university professors who hosted meetings at their home to introduce Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois state senate in 1996. Ayers (who contributed money to Obamaâ??s 1996 campaign) and Dohrn had been leaders of the 1960s domestic terrorist group Weatherman, a Communist-driven splinter faction of Students for a Democratic Society. The pair had participated personally in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972. To this day, both have remained unrepentant about their former terrorist activities and their hatred of the United States.[4]</p>
<p>There is compelling evidence suggesting that Ayers contributed heavily, if not entirely, to the writing of Obama&#8217;s 1995 memoir, Dreams From My Father. </p>
<p>When questioned about his relationship with Ayers during an April 2008 Democratic primary debate, Obama responded: </p>
<p>â??This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who is a professor of English in Chicago, who I know, and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He is not somebody who I exchange ideas from [with] on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow, as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts forty years ago when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn&#8217;t make much sense â?¦ [T]his kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, [that] somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. Theyâ??re not gonna suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isnâ??t.â? </p>
<p>Chicago Annenberg Challenge and Bill Ayers:</p>
<p>But in reality, Obama&#8217;s ties to Ayers were deep and longstanding. In 1995, for instance, Obama was appointed as the first Chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), a â??school reform organizationâ? founded by Ayers, who would later write, in his book Teaching Toward Freedom, that his educational objective was to â??teach against oppressionâ? as embodied in â??Americaâ??s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.â?</p>
<p>When National Review Online writer Stanley Kurtz in 2008 asked the Obama presidential campaign about the nature of its candidate&#8217;s connection to Ayers and the CAC, the campaign issued a statement claiming that Ayers had not been involved in the â??recruitmentâ? of Obama to the CAC board in 1995. But when Kurtz reviewed the CAC archives at the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois, he found that Ayers in fact had been one of five members of a working group that assembled the initial CAC board which hired Obama.</p>
<p>â??Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit,â? Kurtz wrote in September 2008. â??No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.â? According to Kurtz, the CAC archives show that Obama and Ayers worked as a team to advance the foundation&#8217;s agenda &#8212; with Obama responsible for fiscal matters while Ayers focused on shaping educational policy. The archived documents further reveal that Ayers served as an ex-officio member of the board that Obama chaired through CAC&#8217;s first year; that Ayers served with Obama on the CAC governance committee; and that Ayers worked with Obama to write CACâ??s bylaws.</p>
<p>A September 2008 WorldNetDaily report offers still more details: </p>
<p>â??Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Obama. Ayers also spoke for the Chicago School Reform Collaborative before Obama&#8217;s board, while Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the collaborative â?¦ According to the documents, the CAC granted money to far-leftist causes, such as the radical Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which â?¦has done work on behalf of Obama&#8217;s presidential campaign.â? </p>
<p>WorldNetDaily reported further that â??while Obama chaired the board of the CAC, more than $600,000 was granted to an organization founded by Ayers and run by Mike Klonsky, a former top communist activist. Klonsky was leader of the Marxist-Leninist Communist Party, which was effectively recognized by China as the all-but-official U.S. Maoist party.â? Said Stanley Kurtz: </p>
<p>â??Instead of funding schools directly, [the CAC] required schools to affiliate with â??external partners,â?? which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as ACORN.â? </p>
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		By: Andrew Dodds		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/25/obama-destroys-internet11/#comment-505683</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[StevoR -

I believe that &#039;Fighting Back&#039; means &#039;Cut taxes on the already-fantastically-rich whilst removing what remains of the social protections for the poor&#039;. It&#039;s the will of the American People*

Not sure about the &#039;terrorist declaration of war&#039; though, since terrorists don&#039;t declare war, pretty much by definition.

*People that matter, anyway, if you happen to be poor or old or young or unemployed or ill it&#039;s your own fault, really.  The  important thing is that rich people can affort that third yacht, otherwise it&#039;s economic Armageddon.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>StevoR &#8211;</p>
<p>I believe that &#8216;Fighting Back&#8217; means &#8216;Cut taxes on the already-fantastically-rich whilst removing what remains of the social protections for the poor&#8217;. It&#8217;s the will of the American People*</p>
<p>Not sure about the &#8216;terrorist declaration of war&#8217; though, since terrorists don&#8217;t declare war, pretty much by definition.</p>
<p>*People that matter, anyway, if you happen to be poor or old or young or unemployed or ill it&#8217;s your own fault, really.  The  important thing is that rich people can affort that third yacht, otherwise it&#8217;s economic Armageddon.</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[D&#039;oh! Sorry about the semi-double post if it happens which it probably will - I thought that first one hadn&#039;t come through. Now there&#039;s a second more complete andexpanded one currently awaiting moderation or something. Oops. Mea culpa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D&#8217;oh! Sorry about the semi-double post if it happens which it probably will &#8211; I thought that first one hadn&#8217;t come through. Now there&#8217;s a second more complete andexpanded one currently awaiting moderation or something. Oops. Mea culpa.</p>
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		By: StevoR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@13.JLynn &#124; July 26, 2011 8:29 PM :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:

A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.

As was mentioned in one comment - this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back -- and quickly!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Out of sheer morbid curiousity, JLynn :

1) How in the blazes are you drawing that conclusion?

2) How does that not apply equally to the Republicans? 

&amp;

3) fighting back - *how* exactly?  

Plus also :

@9 Keith Greene &#124; July 26, 2011 10:19 AM :

&lt;blockquote&gt;Trust me, there are enough Soros left wing groups out there, THAT DO NOT WORK, but just sit around waiting for ques such as what &lt;b&gt;the Kenyan&lt;/b&gt; said. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Y&#039;know Obama *did* produce that Hawaiian birth certificate and trumped that whole &quot;Birther&quot; baloney right? 

Are you guys really still going to with that rubbish &quot;Kenyan&quot; line? Like &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;*really*&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;??
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13.JLynn | July 26, 2011 8:29 PM :</p>
<blockquote><p><i>As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:</p>
<p>A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.</p>
<p>As was mentioned in one comment &#8211; this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back &#8212; and quickly!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Out of sheer morbid curiousity, JLynn :</p>
<p>1) How in the blazes are you drawing that conclusion?</p>
<p>2) How does that not apply equally to the Republicans? </p>
<p>&#038;</p>
<p>3) fighting back &#8211; *how* exactly?  </p>
<p>Plus also :</p>
<p>@9 Keith Greene | July 26, 2011 10:19 AM :</p>
<blockquote><p>Trust me, there are enough Soros left wing groups out there, THAT DO NOT WORK, but just sit around waiting for ques such as what <b>the Kenyan</b> said. </p></blockquote>
<p>Y&#8217;know Obama *did* produce that Hawaiian birth certificate and trumped that whole &#8220;Birther&#8221; baloney right? </p>
<p>Are you guys really still going to with that rubbish &#8220;Kenyan&#8221; line? Like <b><i>*really*</i></b>??</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@13.JLynn &#124; July 26, 2011 8:29 PM :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:

A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.

As was mentioned in one comment - this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back -- and quickly!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Out of sheer morbid curiousity, JLynn :

1) How in the blazes are you drawing that conclusion?

2) How does that not apply equally to the Republicans? 

&amp; 

3) fighting back - *how* exactly?  

Also :

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13.JLynn | July 26, 2011 8:29 PM :</p>
<blockquote><p><i>As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:</p>
<p>A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.</p>
<p>As was mentioned in one comment &#8211; this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back &#8212; and quickly!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Out of sheer morbid curiousity, JLynn :</p>
<p>1) How in the blazes are you drawing that conclusion?</p>
<p>2) How does that not apply equally to the Republicans? </p>
<p>&#038; </p>
<p>3) fighting back &#8211; *how* exactly?  </p>
<p>Also :</p>
<p>@</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As far as I am concerned (&lt;b&gt;irreguardless&lt;/b&gt; of political views)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Double fail.  If you are going to use a nonsense word, at least try to spell it properly.

Keith Green - You forgot to mention the million UN troops that are hiding in the national parks as well as the shape shifting lizards.  Seriously, take your meds and stop listening to Alex Jones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As far as I am concerned (<b>irreguardless</b> of political views)</p></blockquote>
<p>Double fail.  If you are going to use a nonsense word, at least try to spell it properly.</p>
<p>Keith Green &#8211; You forgot to mention the million UN troops that are hiding in the national parks as well as the shape shifting lizards.  Seriously, take your meds and stop listening to Alex Jones.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the pres must be a hacker, causing all those DOS&#039;s

that&#039;s illegal. he should be removed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the pres must be a hacker, causing all those DOS&#8217;s</p>
<p>that&#8217;s illegal. he should be removed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:

A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.

As was mentioned in one comment - this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back -- and quickly!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I am concerned (irreguardless of political views), this action in and of itself is:</p>
<p>A TERRORIST DECLARATION OF WAR by Obama on the PEOPLE of the United States.</p>
<p>As was mentioned in one comment &#8211; this action sets a precedent and we need to be fighting back &#8212; and quickly!</p>
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