Comments on: Ethnographic Notes: Efe Forest Camps https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/ Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:50:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.8 By: Jim Thomerson https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505444 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:50:36 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505444 I was out collecting fish in the upper Rio Ventuari in Amazonas State, Venezuela, with a couple of colleagues and a tribal Indian guide. It started to rain. We paid no attention because we were already wet, and busy catching fish. The Indian, in about 30 seconds time, chopped some big leaves and a vine and made a rain proof shelter, with a place to sit off the ground, for himself. I was impressed!

]]> By: DuWayne https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505443 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:30:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505443 I suppose ancient astronauts is a possibility and technically they would not have been “people” per se.

Not if they were some of the EVILE!!1! issue of the vile human/angel couplings that ultimately contributed to the fall of Lucifer and his cohort. Kind of the demonic equivalent of the beginning of the end of the Roman empire.

Everyone knows they had all sorts of great technological wonders…And magic…Like the magical nature of cannabis to heal cancer, emphysema and genital warts. Only theirs was much better – until their demoralizing defeat when David destroyed their badass Goliath.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505442 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:49:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505442 Charles, none. I wouldn’t call that suspicion a claim. Let me ask: Assume for a moment that it wasn’t people. If it wasn’t people, than what was it?

I suppose ancient astronauts is a possibility and technically they would not have been “people” per se.

]]> By: Charles Sullivan https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505441 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:58:14 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505441 What? Hot peppers got to Africa by birds? Is there good evidence for this claim?

]]> By: shawna.burt https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505440 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:02:14 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505440 “It is possible, Mr. Anthropologist, that you have not come empty handed!”

A good guest always brings something to share!

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505439 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:33:00 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505439 Yes, in theory. Pili pili, however, was noted and named by the Portugeses, suggesting that it got to Africa by some route other than post-exploration or post-colonial transport. Birds, I would suspect.

I haven’t looked for a study on that using modern (DNA) techniques. There must be one.

]]> By: rturpin https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505438 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:47:25 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505438 The red pepper is a transplant from the New World, right?

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505437 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:37:38 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505437 They have black pepper in abundance, a little item called “pili pili” which you now of as the red pepper… the African variety is fairly unique as are most pepper varieties. They will do anything they need to do to obtain salt, so there’s that, but it is not locally produced or available. A lot, perhaps most, of the wild plant foods and fungi they obtain have very strong and generally very nice flavors. Spices are more for agricultural products which tend to be bland.

]]> By: rturpin https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505436 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 03:10:22 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/21/camps/#comment-505436 So I’m a bit curious: What herbs do they use to spice their food? And how do they compare to the usual Mediterranean ones?

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