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		By: Ano Nymo		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ano Nymo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2013 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently Welch never grew out of his bullying habit. See the recent Angry Mac Bastards fiasco, where he and a self-proclaimed drunk insulted and bullied a random man for half an hour on their podcast. The guy is a sociopath.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Welch never grew out of his bullying habit. See the recent Angry Mac Bastards fiasco, where he and a self-proclaimed drunk insulted and bullied a random man for half an hour on their podcast. The guy is a sociopath.</p>
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		By: Letha Deck		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505396</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Letha Deck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great seeing I&#039;m not the only one who has had an unpleasant experience with Mr. Welch. I am working with him to undo some of the damage his writing and prominence in Google causes me. 

I may take this baby to court. Anyone want to join a class action suit?  Mine is for slander and libel with damage to my business. If you have a similar issue with John and his cyber-terrorism, let me know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great seeing I&#8217;m not the only one who has had an unpleasant experience with Mr. Welch. I am working with him to undo some of the damage his writing and prominence in Google causes me. </p>
<p>I may take this baby to court. Anyone want to join a class action suit?  Mine is for slander and libel with damage to my business. If you have a similar issue with John and his cyber-terrorism, let me know.</p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505392</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Woden: Welch&#039;s spam post could easily have amounted to that many lines.  It was, as I said before, an indiscriminate copy-paste of &lt;i&gt;all of the text in the entire blog post&lt;/i&gt;, including all the top-notes, side-notes, bottom-notes, and several hundred comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woden: Welch&#8217;s spam post could easily have amounted to that many lines.  It was, as I said before, an indiscriminate copy-paste of <i>all of the text in the entire blog post</i>, including all the top-notes, side-notes, bottom-notes, and several hundred comments.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Woden, are you defending what he did or seriously asking the question?  

I have no idea how many bytes there were.  It was not my job to measure it.  The point is, John C. Welch piled enough crap into a single comment to cause the page to fail/crash or load slowly for many users.  Which I called a &quot;primitive form of denial of service attack&quot; which Welch then turned into a &quot;Felonious distributed denial of service attack,&quot; an absurd lie that he and his winged monkey (or is he the winged monkey, can&#039;t remember) took to new heights of intertubual brethlessness and glenbeckosity in public, and in private have threatened legal access over.

So you see, if your just asking, I don&#039;t know and I don&#039;t need o know.  If you&#039;re defending him do go away.  Thank you very much. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woden, are you defending what he did or seriously asking the question?  </p>
<p>I have no idea how many bytes there were.  It was not my job to measure it.  The point is, John C. Welch piled enough crap into a single comment to cause the page to fail/crash or load slowly for many users.  Which I called a &#8220;primitive form of denial of service attack&#8221; which Welch then turned into a &#8220;Felonious distributed denial of service attack,&#8221; an absurd lie that he and his winged monkey (or is he the winged monkey, can&#8217;t remember) took to new heights of intertubual brethlessness and glenbeckosity in public, and in private have threatened legal access over.</p>
<p>So you see, if your just asking, I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t need o know.  If you&#8217;re defending him do go away.  Thank you very much. </p>
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		By: Woden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 16:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg Laden:
&lt;i&gt;but the multi-megabyte file you uploaded into a comment&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m &lt;b&gt;extremely&lt;/b&gt; curious about this. I just checked, and the text of the entire front page of the Timecube site (which works out to nearly 2,000 lines of text) is only about 73 kilobytes... that is, about 7% of a megabyte. For plain text to be more than a megabyte, it would have to be about 28,500 lines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg Laden:<br />
<i>but the multi-megabyte file you uploaded into a comment</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m <b>extremely</b> curious about this. I just checked, and the text of the entire front page of the Timecube site (which works out to nearly 2,000 lines of text) is only about 73 kilobytes&#8230; that is, about 7% of a megabyte. For plain text to be more than a megabyte, it would have to be about 28,500 lines.</p>
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		By: pornonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pornonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know--the guy sure is windy, but he has that good old post-top secret clearance and all.

And, RB, just because you are an old, unemployable relic of 80&#039;s cocaine addiction,wannabe Blow style personal fantasies of power,  and still a toddering closet queen, doesn&#039;t make Welch any more of a blowhard than you.

I laugh, ans laugh, and laugh every time I read one of your circle jerking comments desperately prating on and on in the party line--with the closeted hope that &quot;gosh I might get a talk to a gurl&#039;

Your no doubt one of those pot bellied old ponytail types cruising around Phoenix in a Speedo like a terrier off-leash; a reeking,  squeaking, prating droid--go buy a sexbot or something, and save us all from your useless comments.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8211;the guy sure is windy, but he has that good old post-top secret clearance and all.</p>
<p>And, RB, just because you are an old, unemployable relic of 80&#8217;s cocaine addiction,wannabe Blow style personal fantasies of power,  and still a toddering closet queen, doesn&#8217;t make Welch any more of a blowhard than you.</p>
<p>I laugh, ans laugh, and laugh every time I read one of your circle jerking comments desperately prating on and on in the party line&#8211;with the closeted hope that &#8220;gosh I might get a talk to a gurl&#8217;</p>
<p>Your no doubt one of those pot bellied old ponytail types cruising around Phoenix in a Speedo like a terrier off-leash; a reeking,  squeaking, prating droid&#8211;go buy a sexbot or something, and save us all from your useless comments.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505388</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2011 03:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welch is a wacko nutjob with the maturity of a 7th grader. He&#039;s into defamation and other illegal activities, but he doesn&#039;t care. He lives in Kansas City because he can&#039;t hold down a real job in Silicon Valley. He thinks AppleScript is a real programming language and is a wannabe programmer. No one in their right mind would want this sewer-mouthed moron in their workplace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welch is a wacko nutjob with the maturity of a 7th grader. He&#8217;s into defamation and other illegal activities, but he doesn&#8217;t care. He lives in Kansas City because he can&#8217;t hold down a real job in Silicon Valley. He thinks AppleScript is a real programming language and is a wannabe programmer. No one in their right mind would want this sewer-mouthed moron in their workplace.</p>
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		By: Jason Thibeault		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;d like to see the email from Welch too. You... DO have an &quot;I publish stupid emails&quot; policy, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;d like to see the email from Welch too. You&#8230; DO have an &#8220;I publish stupid emails&#8221; policy, right?</p>
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		By: Calli Arcale		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505386</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Calli Arcale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, in fairness, a woman making a comment like this out of the blue would strike me as pretty creepy.  How do you know the woman making such a comment was definitely desperate or crazy?  Well, you don&#039;t know.  And that&#039;s the point -- all you *do* know is that it&#039;s a socially inappropriate comment, and that makes the motive and/or judgment of the other individual immediately suspect.  Maybe they just have a case of foot-in-mouth disease, but we&#039;re talking about a first impression here; who&#039;s going to stick around to find out if they&#039;re actually a decent person or someone who is clueless about social boundaries or a stalker or worse?

I didn&#039;t get anything in RagingBee&#039;s comment that would imply he thinks women should shut up.  I got that he thinks the Golden Rule isn&#039;t always as easy to apply as one might think, and we should all be sensitive to that before approaching strangers.  A compliment you&#039;d like to receive isn&#039;t necessarily one that they&#039;d like to receive.

The Golden Rule doesn&#039;t really mean do to others EXACTLY as you&#039;d want done to you.  It means that if you want to be treated as you like, you should also treat others as *they* like, insofar as that is practical.  Go beneath the superficial level.  Don&#039;t just think about whether you&#039;d like the compliment (though that&#039;s a good place to start).  Think about how they might interpret it, and how it might make them feel (not just how it would make *you* feel), and evaluate the action in that context.  Yeah, you&#039;ll crash and burn sometimes; people aren&#039;t always easy to read, especially strangers.  But it&#039;s worth the effort.  If you genuinely think the compliment will be well-received, go ahead and present it!  But if it flops, move on.  If the flop bothers you, maybe consider why it flopped and incorporate your findings into future situations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in fairness, a woman making a comment like this out of the blue would strike me as pretty creepy.  How do you know the woman making such a comment was definitely desperate or crazy?  Well, you don&#8217;t know.  And that&#8217;s the point &#8212; all you *do* know is that it&#8217;s a socially inappropriate comment, and that makes the motive and/or judgment of the other individual immediately suspect.  Maybe they just have a case of foot-in-mouth disease, but we&#8217;re talking about a first impression here; who&#8217;s going to stick around to find out if they&#8217;re actually a decent person or someone who is clueless about social boundaries or a stalker or worse?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get anything in RagingBee&#8217;s comment that would imply he thinks women should shut up.  I got that he thinks the Golden Rule isn&#8217;t always as easy to apply as one might think, and we should all be sensitive to that before approaching strangers.  A compliment you&#8217;d like to receive isn&#8217;t necessarily one that they&#8217;d like to receive.</p>
<p>The Golden Rule doesn&#8217;t really mean do to others EXACTLY as you&#8217;d want done to you.  It means that if you want to be treated as you like, you should also treat others as *they* like, insofar as that is practical.  Go beneath the superficial level.  Don&#8217;t just think about whether you&#8217;d like the compliment (though that&#8217;s a good place to start).  Think about how they might interpret it, and how it might make them feel (not just how it would make *you* feel), and evaluate the action in that context.  Yeah, you&#8217;ll crash and burn sometimes; people aren&#8217;t always easy to read, especially strangers.  But it&#8217;s worth the effort.  If you genuinely think the compliment will be well-received, go ahead and present it!  But if it flops, move on.  If the flop bothers you, maybe consider why it flopped and incorporate your findings into future situations.</p>
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		By: Raging Bee		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/20/updates-on-rebeccapocalypse-an/#comment-505395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raging Bee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 19:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg, when are you going to post that email from Welch?  You got us in suspense after telling us about his pathological anger toward...stuff.  C&#039;mon, we need a good laugh...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, when are you going to post that email from Welch?  You got us in suspense after telling us about his pathological anger toward&#8230;stuff.  C&#8217;mon, we need a good laugh&#8230;</p>
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