Comments on: Several items for your careful consideration … https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/ Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:55:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: hillscottc https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505315 Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:55:13 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505315 The Golden Rule is the tool rational people use to determine the morality of our actions. “How would I feel if that happened to me?” It’s a good tool, and serves us well in most cases. We see the problems when other criteria are used instead. Among the poor alternatives are scripture or tradition, etc.

But the Golden Rule is NOT directly helpful in this case. Because as males, when we ask ourselves “Would I feel offended if someone offered a casual complement of my physical attributes?”, the answer is almost always No.

I’m talking in normal setting, amongst adults. Locked in a violent prison is NOT a normal setting, and would be handled differently. No other similar situations occur to me. But in a normal setting on the street, on the job, on campus…if someone told me ‘you got a nice ass’, the response of any man wouldn’t be anything other than amusement and perhaps feeling a little flattered. When men apply the Golden Rule here, the answer is “I would not be offended if someone treated me this way.”

In fact, it leads us to opposite conclusions. “I would feel amused or flattered if I received this type of comment.” And also, “Having offered such a complement, I would not enjoy being chastened — those women are failing to apply the Golden Rule in their response.”

So what is being asked here id for men to ignore the Golden Rule, and instead, take it as given that the behavior is bad, without further evaluation. Rationalists are not good at that.

]]> By: UPDATED https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505314 Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:42:02 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505314 Source of today’s story: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/duluth-boy-dies-in-swimming-pond-in-cloquet/

]]> By: Rich Wilson https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505313 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:50:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505313 And even if there is public transit available, you might end up with a 1.5 hour transfer, and dropped off with a 5 lane highway between you (with your three kids) and your home.

And then one of your extremely cranky/hungry/tired kids can jump off the median and get hit by a drunk driver.

And then you can face vehicular homicide charges.

http://t4america.org/blog/2011/07/18/prosecuting-the-victim-absolving-the-perpetrators/

]]> By: djfav https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505312 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505312 One day I chose to have the “You are a racist” conversation with my best friend. It didn’t go well. We’re not friends anymore. I say good riddance. Listening to him repeat racist, right wing talking points was getting old. I’m pretty sure he was turning into a teabagger.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505311 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:39:23 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505311 Giliell: Excellent point.

bks: There are several items of note in the podcast. Not my job to tell you what they are, despite your prescription. (DTMHTB!!!) Yes your loss.

]]> By: bks https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505310 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 14:11:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505310 I take it there was nothing of note in the podcast? No, I’m not going to listen to it. I am a very, very fast reader and find even professionally done audio interviews to be tedious. If the referrer cannot even find a single fact or intriguing quote to pique my interest, fuhgeddaboudit. My loss, I’m sure.

–bks

]]> By: Giliell https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505309 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:00:14 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505309 Something to keep in mind about accidents with toddler is that they mostly don’t only happen when adults are around, but when a lot of adults are around.
Because everybody assumes that the other ones are looking after the kids.
The only times I ever really had to search for any of my kids was not when I was alone with them, but when the whole family was together and everybody assumed that someone else was looking after them.

]]> By: gwen https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505308 Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:02:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/07/19/several-items-for-your-careful/#comment-505308 1. I will listen to that POI only because Chris Mooney (NOT my favorite podcast host) is interviewing the most awesome Rebecca Watson, who I had the pleasure of meeting and hanging out with at the Oakland RAM. I totally support her position in the elevatorgate debacle.

2. It only takes 1.5 inches of water to drown a small child. Working in the PICU, we used to hate it when summer came around, because people underestimate how top heavy their toddlers are, and how little water it takes for them to drown. One year we admitted a toddler who drown in one of the 5 gallon paint buckets the family used to store his toys. He was in the yard with dad, who was doing yard work, and thought the yard was ‘safe’. By the time he found the toddler head first in the bucket, he’d drowned in the small amount of rainwater in the bucket. Watch your children please.

3. Awesome video.

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