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		By: surgoshan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/pulling-in-to-stfu-station/#comment-505300</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[surgoshan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 04:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Ms Stephanie up at #1, and I hope you won&#039;t mind if I hijack and alter your first analogy.

You push past me.
Then I push past you.

I think a great deal of the noise out there isn&#039;t actually conversation, nor intended to be.  Some of it is just shouting &quot;Yeah!  Go misogyny!&quot;  A lot of it is talking *at* people rather than to them. Some of it is just frustrating repetitive conversation that doesn&#039;t go anywhere, and some of it actually does produce results.  Not much.

To hijack your second analogy, it&#039;s like the subway in that most of us are along for the ride and ignoring everyone else even if some particular bit of noise grabs our attention for a moment.

If I sound pessimistic, it&#039;s because I came here almost directly from another sciblogger&#039;s post who just isn&#039;t on board with the maturity thing.

Eh.  It&#039;ll get better.  Maybe.  Eventually.

Also, why do people keep arguing?  Mr Munroe already covered that.
http://xkcd.com/386/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Ms Stephanie up at #1, and I hope you won&#8217;t mind if I hijack and alter your first analogy.</p>
<p>You push past me.<br />
Then I push past you.</p>
<p>I think a great deal of the noise out there isn&#8217;t actually conversation, nor intended to be.  Some of it is just shouting &#8220;Yeah!  Go misogyny!&#8221;  A lot of it is talking *at* people rather than to them. Some of it is just frustrating repetitive conversation that doesn&#8217;t go anywhere, and some of it actually does produce results.  Not much.</p>
<p>To hijack your second analogy, it&#8217;s like the subway in that most of us are along for the ride and ignoring everyone else even if some particular bit of noise grabs our attention for a moment.</p>
<p>If I sound pessimistic, it&#8217;s because I came here almost directly from another sciblogger&#8217;s post who just isn&#8217;t on board with the maturity thing.</p>
<p>Eh.  It&#8217;ll get better.  Maybe.  Eventually.</p>
<p>Also, why do people keep arguing?  Mr Munroe already covered that.<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/386/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://xkcd.com/386/</a></p>
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		By: Jason Thibeault		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/pulling-in-to-stfu-station/#comment-505299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Thibeault]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I generally only get tired after the third or fourth go-around through already-covered territory. I have also noticed people wanting to get the last word and expecting the argument to disappear immediately thereafter, then seeming surprised when others continue rebutting. I like the station analogy for that phenomenon. I expect to link this post in a future argument.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I generally only get tired after the third or fourth go-around through already-covered territory. I have also noticed people wanting to get the last word and expecting the argument to disappear immediately thereafter, then seeming surprised when others continue rebutting. I like the station analogy for that phenomenon. I expect to link this post in a future argument.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/07/19/pulling-in-to-stfu-station/#comment-505298</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, I generally consider this a perpetual ongoing discussion. It didn&#039;t start with Rebecca&#039;s video, and it&#039;s not going to end just because someone runs out of steam or gets bored or calls a temporary cease fire to get some work done. 

I do get a bit tired of having to repeat myself several times in a single comment thread, however.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I generally consider this a perpetual ongoing discussion. It didn&#8217;t start with Rebecca&#8217;s video, and it&#8217;s not going to end just because someone runs out of steam or gets bored or calls a temporary cease fire to get some work done. </p>
<p>I do get a bit tired of having to repeat myself several times in a single comment thread, however.</p>
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