Comments on: Minnesota AGW Denialist Jungbauer Disembowled by Respected News Anchor Don Shelby

By: John Douglas Swallow

John Douglas Swallow — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 03:23:20 +0000

This will be the last one that I post for now because I do have other important things to do. This, among many other “facts”, is why I’m a denier and very proud to be among their ranks. The intellectual Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius (AD 121-180) must have foreseen Global Warmism. He said: “The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” I’m not sure that “deniers” are in the minority, but you get my point.

There are some obsessed with the supposed increase of 280 ppm to 392ppm of CO2 and I hope that this information will help you to sleep better at nights.

This, I hope, will put this into some kind of a perspective that makes one understand just how insignificant this increase is.

A part per million is like 1 drop of ink in a large
kitchen sink.
A large kitchen sink is about 13-14 gallons. There
are 100 drops in one teaspoon, and 768 teaspoons
per gallon.
Some other things that are one part per million areâ?¦
One drop in the fuel tank of a mid-sized car
One inch in 16 miles
About one minute in two years
One car in a line of bumper-to-bumper traffic from
Cleveland to San Francisco.
One penny in $10,000.

I know that you understand that these 112 additional ppm are spread out over this 16 miles in different one inch segments and wouldn’t it be a task to be told to sort out the 392 pennies from the number that it would take to make up $10,000.

By: John Douglas Swallow

John Douglas Swallow — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 03:10:04 +0000

I well imagine that Greg will soon shut his site down if too many “deniers” try to state their valid post, as he has done in the past. Greg seemed to want to make this latest about education; so, in that context I present these “facts.”

This may be a shock to some that worship at this cathedral of their religion, global warming, but Al Gore, the spokesman for this scam, has no scientific credentials. He studied law at Vanderbilt Law School and for sure didn’t finish his divinity training there either. The head of the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri, is an economist. â??It is well known that many, if not most, of its members are not scientists at all, 80 percent of the IPCC membership has absolutely no dealing with the climate as part of their academic studies.â?
Steve Running, who shared in the Nobel prize with Gore, holds a â??B.S.Â inÂ Botany; Oregon State University, Corvallis, 1972, M.S. inÂ Forest Management; Oregon State University, Corvallis, 1973 and a Ph.D.Â in Forest Ecophysiology; {what ever that is}, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, 1979.
“Plant ecophysiology is an experimental science that seeks to describe the physiological mechanisms underlying ecological observations.” At least he has been exposed to science but is a long ways from being a climatologist, but then again, how much difference do credentials make when the head of the IPCC is an economist?
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Then we have Dr. John Christy:
â??Ph.D., Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana, 1987 M.S., Atmospheric Sciences, University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana, 1984; B.A., Mathematics, California State University, Fresno, 1969â? and also “Richard Siegmund Lindzen who is a Harvard-trained atmospheric physicist and Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Lindzen is known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides and ozone photochemistry. He has published more than 200 books and scientific papers. He has been a critic of some anthropogenic global warming theories and the alleged political pressures on climate scientists” I tend to listen to Dr. Christy, Dr Spencer and Dr. Lindzen before paying much attention to Gore or Running. We shouldn’t forget James Hansen that was predicting global cooling back in the 1970’s

By: John Douglas Swallow

John Douglas Swallow — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:36:12 +0000

Having done much boating in S. E. Alaska, I have great respect for what these sailors of the past accomplished. Keep in mind that Geo. Vancouver’s ships were wind powered; therefore, he wasn’t spewing out any diesel smoke to start this massive retreat of these glaciers. “The explorer Captain George Vancouver found Icy Strait, at the south end of Glacier Bay, choked with ice in 1794. Glacier Bay itself was almost entirely iced over. In 1879 naturalist John Muir found that the ice had retreated almost all the way up the bay. By 1916 the Grand Pacific Glacier was at the head of Tarr Inlet about 65 miles from Glacier Bay’s mouth. This is the fastest documented glacier retreat ever. Scientists are hoping to learn how glacial activity relates to climate changes and global warming from these retreating giants.” What do you think they will discover, Markita Lynda: Healthcare is a damn right?

By: John Douglas Swallow

John Douglas Swallow — Sun, 24 Jul 2011 02:31:34 +0000

I assume that Greg thinks that this is the first thunder storm that has ever struck where he lives. Markita Lynda: Healthcare is a damn right needs to look at this information and the next post I offer to see what they think:
“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.”

Who reported this? the IPCC, the Meteorological Office…. No, that was the US Weather Bureau in 1922.

By: Hank Roberts

Hank Roberts — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:08:14 +0000

Greg, PS — ‘moliva’ is a prolific spambot, copypasting text from earlier in the thread, to put an ad link behind the fake name. “Steve Ortman” link is to an online gambling site. I quit checking at that point, you’ve got an infestation here.
Don’t click the names/links without malware protection.

By: Hank Roberts

Hank Roberts — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:03:53 +0000

Greg, PS — ‘moliva’ is a prolific spambot, copypasting text from earlier in the thread, to put an ad link behind the fake name. Don’t click the name without malware protection.

By: Hank Roberts

Hank Roberts — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:54:08 +0000

Greg, I think the ‘bot rotation schedule failed — they’re all posting to your new topic on the same day. But they’re effective distracting from your topic if allowed. Scienceblogs still hasn’t got a humans-only filter yet, eh?

By: bubba

bubba — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:26:44 +0000

I think you touched a nerve. 🙂 The madmen came out to play. LOL!

By: jules

jules — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:02:39 +0000

oh man. oh man, what hast thou wrought? so, the angry angry people i can easily reject. they are clearly not in any rational or inquiring mind as to the science of global warming. and then to use other ‘wrong’ info as if that would prove AGW to be wrong…it’s histrionics, inciting the mindless masses. sadly- pretty easy to do. we have been taught NOT to think for ourselves, or look for further information. we want to be riled up–it makes us feel like we are taking action. ah, emotional addiction. so easy to keep the madding crowd busy. but, that is another story.
people seem to confuse pollution and global warming. they interact but are not the same. climate change is climate change, and what we are doing with carbon emissions is another. surely no one can negate the dangers presented by our dependency on carbon fuels? if nothing else–the natural resources of the planet are, duh, finite. new plan needed stat. so i do not understand the hail storm of fury from these oh so panties in a twist folks. it doesnt make sense to me…are they fighting to keep oil eco(not)nomy intact?? they protest toooo much, w/ over-amplified emotion, so i dont believe a word they have to say. the masses are asses, alas.

By: Cedric Katesby

Cedric Katesby — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 16:06:15 +0000

NASA lied about America going to the moon.
NASA lies about climate change.

If Climate Change is true then how come there are still monkeys? Huh? HUH????
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