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	Comments on: Japan Nuclear Disaster Update 26: &#8220;My head is full of question marks&#8221;	</title>
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		By: Ana		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/01/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-5/#comment-503519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@hp:  I&#039;m comfortable with my level of contribution heretofore on risk assessment.  How about you show us your evidence that this disaster is playing out just as expected.  That would surely be of some interest!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hp:  I&#8217;m comfortable with my level of contribution heretofore on risk assessment.  How about you show us your evidence that this disaster is playing out just as expected.  That would surely be of some interest!</p>
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		By: healthphysicist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/01/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-5/#comment-503518</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[healthphysicist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 13:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just recalled that during the Kingston, TN coal ash spill...PZ Myers described it in terms of something like &quot;extremely nasty&quot; in his blog.

I posted comments in an attempt to put the risks in perspective, because fly ash is not considered to be a radioactive waste, hazardous waste or toxic waste.

I was a Coal Apologist, according to the other commenters!
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly_ash_slurry_spill

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recalled that during the Kingston, TN coal ash spill&#8230;PZ Myers described it in terms of something like &#8220;extremely nasty&#8221; in his blog.</p>
<p>I posted comments in an attempt to put the risks in perspective, because fly ash is not considered to be a radioactive waste, hazardous waste or toxic waste.</p>
<p>I was a Coal Apologist, according to the other commenters!<br />
 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly_ash_slurry_spill" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_Fossil_Plant_coal_fly_ash_slurry_spill</a></p>
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		By: Greg laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 02:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a pretty clean looking coal plant in sight of the nuke plant]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a pretty clean looking coal plant in sight of the nuke plant</p>
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		By: frankenstein monster		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/01/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-5/#comment-503516</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frankenstein monster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[great. I like swimming pools :)
swimming polls, not so much if there is such a thing :)

And in the meantime, you could try to tell me what I am supposedly missing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great. I like swimming pools 🙂<br />
swimming polls, not so much if there is such a thing 🙂</p>
<p>And in the meantime, you could try to tell me what I am supposedly missing.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[monster, you do understand that people are about to start a pool on how long it takes you to figure out that you&#039;re not in the conversation you think you are, yes?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>monster, you do understand that people are about to start a pool on how long it takes you to figure out that you&#8217;re not in the conversation you think you are, yes?</p>
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		By: healthphysicist		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/01/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-5/#comment-503514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[healthphysicist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lee -  

Refrain from &quot;presentism&quot;...the plant was built in the late 1970&#039;s and they didn&#039;t have access to 1980&#039;s papers then.

They likely didn&#039;t have internet access, until the 1990&#039;s.

They probably didn&#039;t read proceedings from the SS of America.

In the real world, companies operate to make a profit.  They don&#039;t usually pay people to read scientific journals.  Typically, an authoritative or government body periodically reviews scientific papers on a frequency of something like every 10 years (called secondary research) and they recommends or regulate changes that all companies have to follow.

We do know that TEPCO consulted with the Japanese Society of Civil Engineers to get the best tsunami risk estimates of the day.  The estimates were not made by TEPCO employees.

I also NEVER claimed that they &quot;didn&#039;t underestimate the risk&quot;.  I only asked for evidence that they did.  They may have, humans make errors. 


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee &#8211;  </p>
<p>Refrain from &#8220;presentism&#8221;&#8230;the plant was built in the late 1970&#8217;s and they didn&#8217;t have access to 1980&#8217;s papers then.</p>
<p>They likely didn&#8217;t have internet access, until the 1990&#8217;s.</p>
<p>They probably didn&#8217;t read proceedings from the SS of America.</p>
<p>In the real world, companies operate to make a profit.  They don&#8217;t usually pay people to read scientific journals.  Typically, an authoritative or government body periodically reviews scientific papers on a frequency of something like every 10 years (called secondary research) and they recommends or regulate changes that all companies have to follow.</p>
<p>We do know that TEPCO consulted with the Japanese Society of Civil Engineers to get the best tsunami risk estimates of the day.  The estimates were not made by TEPCO employees.</p>
<p>I also NEVER claimed that they &#8220;didn&#8217;t underestimate the risk&#8221;.  I only asked for evidence that they did.  They may have, humans make errors. </p>
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		By: frankenstein monster		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/06/01/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-5/#comment-503513</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frankenstein monster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I would like to point out that I live a short distance from a single-reactor nuclear plant that is a) the same exact design as Fukushima&#039;s plants and b) has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of any commercial power plant in the US ever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wonder what would you say, if they shut it down and replaced it with three &#039;clean&#039; coal power plants citing your very words

&lt;blockquote&gt;The nuclear power industry has proven itself capable of making avoidable yet severe mistakes, the nuclear power apologists such as you have made it clear that they are NOT going to engage in a rational conversation, and the markets, which are supposed to be the all knowing rational being we rely on to make our decisions for us, have turned their back on their conservative handmaidens and told nuclear power that they are not interested. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I would like to point out that I live a short distance from a single-reactor nuclear plant that is a) the same exact design as Fukushima&#8217;s plants and b) has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of any commercial power plant in the US ever.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wonder what would you say, if they shut it down and replaced it with three &#8216;clean&#8217; coal power plants citing your very words</p>
<blockquote><p>The nuclear power industry has proven itself capable of making avoidable yet severe mistakes, the nuclear power apologists such as you have made it clear that they are NOT going to engage in a rational conversation, and the markets, which are supposed to be the all knowing rational being we rely on to make our decisions for us, have turned their back on their conservative handmaidens and told nuclear power that they are not interested. </p></blockquote>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to point out that I live a short distance from a single-reactor nuclear plant that is a) the same exact design as Fukushima&#039;s plants and b) has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of any commercial power plant in the US ever. Only once did it dump nuclear water into the Mississippi, and that&#039;s about it. One death occurred there but it was the kind of thing that could have happened at any power station (an electrocution).  

It was built above the tsunami line!  

(Like WAY above the line!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to point out that I live a short distance from a single-reactor nuclear plant that is a) the same exact design as Fukushima&#8217;s plants and b) has one of the best, if not the best, safety records of any commercial power plant in the US ever. Only once did it dump nuclear water into the Mississippi, and that&#8217;s about it. One death occurred there but it was the kind of thing that could have happened at any power station (an electrocution).  </p>
<p>It was built above the tsunami line!  </p>
<p>(Like WAY above the line!)</p>
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		By: frankenstein monster		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frankenstein monster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If the design was what mattered that tells us nuclear plants can be made to withstand the larges natural disasters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://depletedcranium.com/the-other-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; and the answer appears to be &#039;YES&#039;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If the design was what mattered that tells us nuclear plants can be made to withstand the larges natural disasters.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://depletedcranium.com/the-other-fukushima-nuclear-power-plant/" rel="nofollow"> and the answer appears to be &#8216;YES&#8217;</a></p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For some reason comments are being held in moderation more frequently than usual, so you&#039;ll notice some comments coming out only after I&#039;ve freed them ... and I&#039;ve had meetings and stuff.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason comments are being held in moderation more frequently than usual, so you&#8217;ll notice some comments coming out only after I&#8217;ve freed them &#8230; and I&#8217;ve had meetings and stuff.  </p>
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