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		By: Science		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/05/23/the-marvelous-migrating-whoopi/#comment-503121</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Science]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 09:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beautiful! I love cranes!]]></description>
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		By: Kathlin Sickel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathlin Sickel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 19:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While a new class of whooping cranes follows an ultralight from  Florida to  Wisconsin each fall (since 2001), it is not true that they follow the plane back to Wisconsin.  

On the contrary, they need no help once they&#039;ve learned the migration route and return reliably every spring.  You can follow the journey - usually fascinating, sometimes hilarious - of the crane youngsters in daily posts at the website of Operation Migration listed above (and one of the founding members of the partnership to establish the WI-FL flock).

Your larger point that the existence of whooping cranes is still extremely precarious is SO true.  At Journey North, also listed above, it is stated that &quot;The long-term recovery goal for Whooping cranes is to establish a self-sustaining population of a minimum of 1,000 Whooping cranes in ALL of North America by the year 2035.&quot;  Currently Journey North counts 414 whooping cranes in the wild, but they still have a long way to go! And at another source (which I can&#039;t now locate) I read that endangered species experts believe that a species needs to number over 5,000 to be considered stable.  Will whooping cranes ever make it?  Wouldn&#039;t we like to hope so?  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While a new class of whooping cranes follows an ultralight from  Florida to  Wisconsin each fall (since 2001), it is not true that they follow the plane back to Wisconsin.  </p>
<p>On the contrary, they need no help once they&#8217;ve learned the migration route and return reliably every spring.  You can follow the journey &#8211; usually fascinating, sometimes hilarious &#8211; of the crane youngsters in daily posts at the website of Operation Migration listed above (and one of the founding members of the partnership to establish the WI-FL flock).</p>
<p>Your larger point that the existence of whooping cranes is still extremely precarious is SO true.  At Journey North, also listed above, it is stated that &#8220;The long-term recovery goal for Whooping cranes is to establish a self-sustaining population of a minimum of 1,000 Whooping cranes in ALL of North America by the year 2035.&#8221;  Currently Journey North counts 414 whooping cranes in the wild, but they still have a long way to go! And at another source (which I can&#8217;t now locate) I read that endangered species experts believe that a species needs to number over 5,000 to be considered stable.  Will whooping cranes ever make it?  Wouldn&#8217;t we like to hope so?  </p>
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		By: Mike Haubrich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Haubrich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@rick #2

I don&#039;t think that peyote would work to solve the present problem.

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<p>I don&#8217;t think that peyote would work to solve the present problem.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 21:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s an interesting question.  That could actually be a doable experiment in a high school biology class.  

I&#039;m thinking not.  The young do grow up seeing all the nurturing behavior (because they are nurtured). You&#039;d have to look at facultative parasites. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting question.  That could actually be a doable experiment in a high school biology class.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking not.  The young do grow up seeing all the nurturing behavior (because they are nurtured). You&#8217;d have to look at facultative parasites. </p>
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		By: Marcia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always wondered if brown headed cow birds could be taught to build nests and raise young. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered if brown headed cow birds could be taught to build nests and raise young. </p>
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		By: Wouter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wouter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 15:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Windy or not, a day this beautiful has to be lived. The day is bright and clear, the sky blue, and the dry air feels light. A northerly wind stirs a primal urge to move. The geese feel it, and so do I. Perhaps it is a last internal vestige from a time, long ago, when we migrated with the seasons across open plains, following the animals we pursued for food. Perhaps that is why the sight of migrating geese arrests our attention, why we feel the pull. We want to go, to travel in fresh or moody weather, taking in each newly revealed vista.&quot; - Carl Safina]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Windy or not, a day this beautiful has to be lived. The day is bright and clear, the sky blue, and the dry air feels light. A northerly wind stirs a primal urge to move. The geese feel it, and so do I. Perhaps it is a last internal vestige from a time, long ago, when we migrated with the seasons across open plains, following the animals we pursued for food. Perhaps that is why the sight of migrating geese arrests our attention, why we feel the pull. We want to go, to travel in fresh or moody weather, taking in each newly revealed vista.&#8221; &#8211; Carl Safina</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 14:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Robbins (Even Cowgirls Get The Blues) for further reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Robbins (Even Cowgirls Get The Blues) for further reading.</p>
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		By: Birger Johansson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Birger Johansson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 14:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Securing the future will almost certainly require sequencing the genomes of old taxidermy specimen to regain a fraction of the lost genetic diversity.
Fortunately the rapid progress in sequencinng technologies will make this affordable, and the progress in filtering out the effects of contamination of old specimen by Svante PÃ¤Ã¤bo et al at Max Planck Institute will also be invaluable.

I do not know how difficult bird eggs are to clone, but the large eggs imply the process might be more robust than with the mammalian micro-eggs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Securing the future will almost certainly require sequencing the genomes of old taxidermy specimen to regain a fraction of the lost genetic diversity.<br />
Fortunately the rapid progress in sequencinng technologies will make this affordable, and the progress in filtering out the effects of contamination of old specimen by Svante PÃ¤Ã¤bo et al at Max Planck Institute will also be invaluable.</p>
<p>I do not know how difficult bird eggs are to clone, but the large eggs imply the process might be more robust than with the mammalian micro-eggs.</p>
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