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	Comments on: Japan Nuclear Disaster Update 24:  Reactor 1 did melt down, fission and cooling remain issues, worker dies, sarcophagi in Fukushima&#8217;s future.	</title>
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		By: dale kramer		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/05/20/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-3/#comment-503095</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dpXlv4uiYs
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		By: phillydoug		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 13:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;On 20 May, two workers at unit 1 of the Fukushima Daiichi plant made their way to the basement of the reactor building to assess flooding there. The workers reported that the water in the basement was some 4.2 metres deep. This was slightly higher than the level measured over a week ago, when plant owner Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) first confirmed the existence of water...

The increase in the level of the water in the basement of the reactor building suggests that water being pumped into the reactor to keep it cool is indeed leaking through both the reactor vessel and containment vessel.

Tepco continues to empty water from the cabling trench at unit 2 and from the turbine building of unit 3. This water is being pumped to the central waste treatment facility on the plant site. By 20 May, some 7932 tonnes of water had been removed from the trench at unit 2, while 852 tonnes had been pumped from unit 3&#039;s turbine building...

Tepco has now reported that the presence of highly radioactive debris around unit 3. The company said that it had found debris releasing 1000 millisieverts per hour in an area south the unit&#039;s reactor building - the highest level of radiation so far discovered in debris on the Fukushima Daiichi site.&quot;




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<p>&#8220;On 20 May, two workers at unit 1 of the Fukushima Daiichi plant made their way to the basement of the reactor building to assess flooding there. The workers reported that the water in the basement was some 4.2 metres deep. This was slightly higher than the level measured over a week ago, when plant owner Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) first confirmed the existence of water&#8230;</p>
<p>The increase in the level of the water in the basement of the reactor building suggests that water being pumped into the reactor to keep it cool is indeed leaking through both the reactor vessel and containment vessel.</p>
<p>Tepco continues to empty water from the cabling trench at unit 2 and from the turbine building of unit 3. This water is being pumped to the central waste treatment facility on the plant site. By 20 May, some 7932 tonnes of water had been removed from the trench at unit 2, while 852 tonnes had been pumped from unit 3&#8217;s turbine building&#8230;</p>
<p>Tepco has now reported that the presence of highly radioactive debris around unit 3. The company said that it had found debris releasing 1000 millisieverts per hour in an area south the unit&#8217;s reactor building &#8211; the highest level of radiation so far discovered in debris on the Fukushima Daiichi site.&#8221;</p>
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		By: healthphysicist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[healthphysicist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike -

&quot;Since the rods in the spent fuel pool are apparently intact the hydrogen must have come from somewhere else.&quot;

That statement isn&#039;t accurate.  Hydrogen is formed continuously under normal conditions (intact rods) by radiolysis of water.  That&#039;s why spent fuel pools are vented and monitored for hydrogen.

If cooling to a pool were interrupted, the rods could heat up enough to accelerate hydrogen production via oxidation of the zirconium cladding.  The rods could still remain intact and never rupture depending on the specific conditions of a particular pool.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;Since the rods in the spent fuel pool are apparently intact the hydrogen must have come from somewhere else.&#8221;</p>
<p>That statement isn&#8217;t accurate.  Hydrogen is formed continuously under normal conditions (intact rods) by radiolysis of water.  That&#8217;s why spent fuel pools are vented and monitored for hydrogen.</p>
<p>If cooling to a pool were interrupted, the rods could heat up enough to accelerate hydrogen production via oxidation of the zirconium cladding.  The rods could still remain intact and never rupture depending on the specific conditions of a particular pool.</p>
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		By: cairne.morane		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/05/20/japan-nuclear-disaster-update-3/#comment-503092</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 03:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To me the most interesting part, and actually somewhat good news, is that the explosion in unit 4 was probably caused by hydrogen vented into the building from unit 3.

Previously the assumption was the only way hydrogen could have built up in unit 4 was from exposed fuel rods in the spent fuel pool. 

Since the rods in the spent fuel pool are apparently intact the hydrogen must have come from somewhere else. That&#039;s good because we really don&#039;t want those rods, which are outside any sort of containment, getting hot enough to start melting.

Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the most interesting part, and actually somewhat good news, is that the explosion in unit 4 was probably caused by hydrogen vented into the building from unit 3.</p>
<p>Previously the assumption was the only way hydrogen could have built up in unit 4 was from exposed fuel rods in the spent fuel pool. </p>
<p>Since the rods in the spent fuel pool are apparently intact the hydrogen must have come from somewhere else. That&#8217;s good because we really don&#8217;t want those rods, which are outside any sort of containment, getting hot enough to start melting.</p>
<p>Mike.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 00:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fission is not the same as radiation.  Spontaneous fission may well happen in sub-critical masses of radioactive stuff of the kind used in fuel rods, but not much of it, and only in certain fuels.  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fission is not the same as radiation.  Spontaneous fission may well happen in sub-critical masses of radioactive stuff of the kind used in fuel rods, but not much of it, and only in certain fuels.  </p>
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		By: George Rieck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Rieck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry for two posts. The obvious question would, if there is no fission, then the place would be safe to enter and clean up - as there would be no high-energy particle or EM being emitted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for two posts. The obvious question would, if there is no fission, then the place would be safe to enter and clean up &#8211; as there would be no high-energy particle or EM being emitted.</p>
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		By: George Rieck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Rieck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 00:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Riddle me how a radio-active element that undergoes fission is no longer be undergoing any fission? Did you mean that there is no longer any cascade / avalanche / chain reaction leading to higher than normal rates of fission for the radio-isotopes?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riddle me how a radio-active element that undergoes fission is no longer be undergoing any fission? Did you mean that there is no longer any cascade / avalanche / chain reaction leading to higher than normal rates of fission for the radio-isotopes?</p>
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