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		By: Alan		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/04/17/beware-of-unity/#comment-502057</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Now, I admit, failing just under half the time on some randomly chosen hardware is a lot better than Windows&quot;

Please stop with the O/S fanboy-isim, if I wanted that level of immature hyperbole I would go to a script-kiddie forum. 

OTOH, if you really do have that much trouble installing windows then why would anyone take your opinions about any other O/S seriously? ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Now, I admit, failing just under half the time on some randomly chosen hardware is a lot better than Windows&#8221;</p>
<p>Please stop with the O/S fanboy-isim, if I wanted that level of immature hyperbole I would go to a script-kiddie forum. </p>
<p>OTOH, if you really do have that much trouble installing windows then why would anyone take your opinions about any other O/S seriously? </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just out of curiosity, can you give us a couple of examples of things you could not configure (or not configure easily, or whatever) in Gnome that KDE or XFCE let you configure? 

For myself, I don&#039;t even use the desktop much.  I should probably just use an x-server so I have gui-ness and call stuff up off the command line, which is what I do much of the time anyway. Except when I&#039;m teaching I use two apps most of the time plus file management, etc. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity, can you give us a couple of examples of things you could not configure (or not configure easily, or whatever) in Gnome that KDE or XFCE let you configure? </p>
<p>For myself, I don&#8217;t even use the desktop much.  I should probably just use an x-server so I have gui-ness and call stuff up off the command line, which is what I do much of the time anyway. Except when I&#8217;m teaching I use two apps most of the time plus file management, etc. </p>
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		By: Rolandl		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/04/17/beware-of-unity/#comment-502055</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rolandl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 23:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting the X server out of the way is the idea behind Unity. It&#039;s a good idea, poorly implemented. Rule of thumb: avoid version 1.0 of anything. As for the look-and-feel of the thing, the market will decide. I gave up on Gnome long ago-not configurable enough. I was a fan of KDE3.5, but I&#039;ve dropped KDE4 for similar reasons. Others feel the same way. KDE3.5 is still around, it&#039;s been forked. See http://www.trinitydesktop.org/

Bottom line: I expect 2 years of chaos in the linux application arena, before it all gets straightened out. It&#039;s too bad, it will discourage lots of new users. For now, I&#039;ve switched to XFCE, and like it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting the X server out of the way is the idea behind Unity. It&#8217;s a good idea, poorly implemented. Rule of thumb: avoid version 1.0 of anything. As for the look-and-feel of the thing, the market will decide. I gave up on Gnome long ago-not configurable enough. I was a fan of KDE3.5, but I&#8217;ve dropped KDE4 for similar reasons. Others feel the same way. KDE3.5 is still around, it&#8217;s been forked. See <a href="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/</a></p>
<p>Bottom line: I expect 2 years of chaos in the linux application arena, before it all gets straightened out. It&#8217;s too bad, it will discourage lots of new users. For now, I&#8217;ve switched to XFCE, and like it.</p>
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		By: ralph		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/04/17/beware-of-unity/#comment-502054</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly, my disagreement was with the word &quot;installation&quot;. Sorry if I wasn&#039;t clear on that, English is not my native language.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, my disagreement was with the word &#8220;installation&#8221;. Sorry if I wasn&#8217;t clear on that, English is not my native language.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/04/17/beware-of-unity/#comment-502053</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ralph, I&#039;m referring to the information in this source: &quot;5 Out Of 11 Participants Crashed Unity In Canonicalâ??s Study&quot;  in which it is said: 

&quot;The most startling revelation from the study was that five out of the eleven participants had Unity crashing on them during their test.&quot;

In the source you give, which is very interesting (and thanks for that) it says: 

&quot;5/11 participants (P2, P3, P5, P9, P10, P11) crashed Unity during their hour of testing. And towards the end of her test, P11 opened a zombie quicklist that stayed on top of everything and didn&#039;t respond to clicks.&quot;


I think you and I may be disagreeing with the word &quot;Installation&quot; and that&#039;s my fault. I&#039;ve adjusted the post.  



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph, I&#8217;m referring to the information in this source: &#8220;5 Out Of 11 Participants Crashed Unity In Canonicalâ??s Study&#8221;  in which it is said: </p>
<p>&#8220;The most startling revelation from the study was that five out of the eleven participants had Unity crashing on them during their test.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the source you give, which is very interesting (and thanks for that) it says: </p>
<p>&#8220;5/11 participants (P2, P3, P5, P9, P10, P11) crashed Unity during their hour of testing. And towards the end of her test, P11 opened a zombie quicklist that stayed on top of everything and didn&#8217;t respond to clicks.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you and I may be disagreeing with the word &#8220;Installation&#8221; and that&#8217;s my fault. I&#8217;ve adjusted the post.  </p>
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		By: Ralph		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/04/17/beware-of-unity/#comment-502052</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First off, I&#039;m a frequent reader and as this is my first comment here, I just wanted to say how much I like your blog.

However, I don&#039;t think this post is correct. Especially, the claim that unity &quot;crashes on roughly half the installations it is tested on&quot; is simply false as I think only one installation was used. You can see the test results and the set up they used here:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I&#8217;m a frequent reader and as this is my first comment here, I just wanted to say how much I like your blog.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think this post is correct. Especially, the claim that unity &#8220;crashes on roughly half the installations it is tested on&#8221; is simply false as I think only one installation was used. You can see the test results and the set up they used here:<br />
<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-April/032988.html</a></p>
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