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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 04:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@brainstorms 

Yeah, thanks. 
I have learnt quite much already on cats, that i had no idea about before getting one. 
And yeah, he will be fine. He is healthy. 

I think i gave him too much food, or hairballs causing his one first trow up the other day. He has been chill and better, normal today. Eating and shitting good, etc. 

De-clawing is inhuman, in my opinion. 
Cats should be cats. 

Anyways. Good luck with your cats. Too bad they trow up thou.. 
Hope it gets better. 
Peace out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brainstorms </p>
<p>Yeah, thanks.<br />
I have learnt quite much already on cats, that i had no idea about before getting one.<br />
And yeah, he will be fine. He is healthy. </p>
<p>I think i gave him too much food, or hairballs causing his one first trow up the other day. He has been chill and better, normal today. Eating and shitting good, etc. </p>
<p>De-clawing is inhuman, in my opinion.<br />
Cats should be cats. </p>
<p>Anyways. Good luck with your cats. Too bad they trow up thou..<br />
Hope it gets better.<br />
Peace out</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 03:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;ve had a lot more success with that.  Two of the three now love to be brushed.  The one (who takes a strong liking to me) doesn&#039;t like it.  She will tolerate combing, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had a lot more success with that.  Two of the three now love to be brushed.  The one (who takes a strong liking to me) doesn&#8217;t like it.  She will tolerate combing, though.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 02:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I&#039;ve had problems administering Petromalt. They will lick it off their paws, but some always seems to wind up on walls and ceilings. 

Maybe train to gentle and regular brushing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve had problems administering Petromalt. They will lick it off their paws, but some always seems to wind up on walls and ceilings. </p>
<p>Maybe train to gentle and regular brushing.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The breeder we bought them from warned us about their (inherited?) sensitive stomachs.  She said to keep them on dry food, and recommended Iams.

They also drink regularly (but are not showing symptoms of diabetes, so that&#039;s not why).

We know they have hairballs (as this is sometimes what they cough up), but they won&#039;t take Petromalt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The breeder we bought them from warned us about their (inherited?) sensitive stomachs.  She said to keep them on dry food, and recommended Iams.</p>
<p>They also drink regularly (but are not showing symptoms of diabetes, so that&#8217;s not why).</p>
<p>We know they have hairballs (as this is sometimes what they cough up), but they won&#8217;t take Petromalt.</p>
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		By: Obstreperous Applesauce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 02:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FWIW, my vet recommended four measured meals a day, two wet and two dry.

Apparently there can be urinary issues associated with high ash and Mg intake, and these can be higher in dry food. Wet food also provides moisture. Some cats, like some humans, don&#039;t drink enough water.

Too much vomiting can be a symptom of problems, or it can irritate and cause problems with the digestive system over time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, my vet recommended four measured meals a day, two wet and two dry.</p>
<p>Apparently there can be urinary issues associated with high ash and Mg intake, and these can be higher in dry food. Wet food also provides moisture. Some cats, like some humans, don&#8217;t drink enough water.</p>
<p>Too much vomiting can be a symptom of problems, or it can irritate and cause problems with the digestive system over time.</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/22/stuff-that-cant-happen-happens/#comment-498459</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 01:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, I think your cat will be fine.  You seem to be a conscientious owner.

We have 3 Siamese, Lilac-Chocolate mix litter mates, all females, who are spayed and have their claws.  (I think de-clawing cats is equivalent to amputating the fingers of your children to &quot;keep them out of trouble&quot;.)

They never go outdoors, and we never feed them human food or wet food.  I&#039;m told that wet food is bad for them, especially their teeth.  It also makes them fat and human food turns them into beggars.  So they are content to eat only dry food.  (They reject human food; &quot;it&#039;s not food!&quot;)

So, no bones and no wet food, and their teeth are good (8 years old now).  But they throw up regularly, and have since they were kittens.  We learned to limit the amount of dry food we give them each time...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think your cat will be fine.  You seem to be a conscientious owner.</p>
<p>We have 3 Siamese, Lilac-Chocolate mix litter mates, all females, who are spayed and have their claws.  (I think de-clawing cats is equivalent to amputating the fingers of your children to &#8220;keep them out of trouble&#8221;.)</p>
<p>They never go outdoors, and we never feed them human food or wet food.  I&#8217;m told that wet food is bad for them, especially their teeth.  It also makes them fat and human food turns them into beggars.  So they are content to eat only dry food.  (They reject human food; &#8220;it&#8217;s not food!&#8221;)</p>
<p>So, no bones and no wet food, and their teeth are good (8 years old now).  But they throw up regularly, and have since they were kittens.  We learned to limit the amount of dry food we give them each time&#8230;</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 00:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Brainstorms.

Thanks for your reply!

Well, i can communicate somewhat. But yeah, i cant spell all the words correctly. ;)

Now i know. My bad. Hah. Coocked. I meant Cooked. Not &quot;coocked&quot;. That sounded kinda funny... Actually.

But yeah, alright. I understand, its a broader word. Alright.

And thanks for that. Then i know. Good to know that a cat can digest either!

Also, that should work, to de-mineralize bones..
BUT, RAW bone, is completely safe!
Almost, completely safe.

To my knowledge. I would not had worry one second if i gave my cat raw bones. They are build to digest that. Evolution.

Cooked, bones. Maybe not soo much, as you write,

But yeah, i called in a animal hospital today and asked if it was safe. She said that i should not worry a bit.
Its been 7 days now, and its out of his system, and the reason he threw up yesterday was hairballs.

So i can breathe out now.

But i will NOT feed him cooked, prepared bones in the future!
But i will give him BARF, raw bones to chew on. Thats just healthy.

Thats just evolution. They can handle that. They learn.
Sure, you are right that it is a risk. It is a factor. But it is very very small, if it is raw bones.

And cats chew those splinters small. Like grain, i think is the word..
They learn.

If you mean by splinter, like a &quot;needle&quot;, well. I think thats is very uncommon, actually.
Raw bones dont splinter like that. Only cooked bones... To my knowledge.

But i respect that you dont feed that to your cats! Ofcourse. All for good health.

I feed dry cat food, and wet cat food. And sometimes, raw food, like a raw chicken wing...

he loves chicken.
Anyways. Thanks for your answer, and i respect your decision ofcourse.

Hope your cats have a long healthy life. ;)

I love cats. (Now that i own one, its good to do some research about diffrent stuff.)
Peace out]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Brainstorms.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply!</p>
<p>Well, i can communicate somewhat. But yeah, i cant spell all the words correctly. 😉</p>
<p>Now i know. My bad. Hah. Coocked. I meant Cooked. Not &#8220;coocked&#8221;. That sounded kinda funny&#8230; Actually.</p>
<p>But yeah, alright. I understand, its a broader word. Alright.</p>
<p>And thanks for that. Then i know. Good to know that a cat can digest either!</p>
<p>Also, that should work, to de-mineralize bones..<br />
BUT, RAW bone, is completely safe!<br />
Almost, completely safe.</p>
<p>To my knowledge. I would not had worry one second if i gave my cat raw bones. They are build to digest that. Evolution.</p>
<p>Cooked, bones. Maybe not soo much, as you write,</p>
<p>But yeah, i called in a animal hospital today and asked if it was safe. She said that i should not worry a bit.<br />
Its been 7 days now, and its out of his system, and the reason he threw up yesterday was hairballs.</p>
<p>So i can breathe out now.</p>
<p>But i will NOT feed him cooked, prepared bones in the future!<br />
But i will give him BARF, raw bones to chew on. Thats just healthy.</p>
<p>Thats just evolution. They can handle that. They learn.<br />
Sure, you are right that it is a risk. It is a factor. But it is very very small, if it is raw bones.</p>
<p>And cats chew those splinters small. Like grain, i think is the word..<br />
They learn.</p>
<p>If you mean by splinter, like a &#8220;needle&#8221;, well. I think thats is very uncommon, actually.<br />
Raw bones dont splinter like that. Only cooked bones&#8230; To my knowledge.</p>
<p>But i respect that you dont feed that to your cats! Ofcourse. All for good health.</p>
<p>I feed dry cat food, and wet cat food. And sometimes, raw food, like a raw chicken wing&#8230;</p>
<p>he loves chicken.<br />
Anyways. Thanks for your answer, and i respect your decision ofcourse.</p>
<p>Hope your cats have a long healthy life. 😉</p>
<p>I love cats. (Now that i own one, its good to do some research about diffrent stuff.)<br />
Peace out</p>
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		By: Brainstorms		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/22/stuff-that-cant-happen-happens/#comment-498457</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dan, your English is quite good -- better than many Americans, actually.  

&quot;Coocked&quot; is actually spelled &quot;cooked&quot;.  For English-speaking people, the word is very general, and does not denote a particular type or style of cooking.  So you would have to depend on context to determine which style of cooking (broiled, baked, simmered, etc.), and what device was used (microwave, stove, etc.).

As far as digesting cooked versus raw bones, a cat would be able to digest either.  Some types of cooking might be able to break down some of the protein matrix that makes up bone, but would likely require a meat tenderizer (i.e., protein enzymes) to really do much as far as that&#039;s concerned.  An acid (e.g., vinegar) can de-mineralize bone -- rendering it flexible, and therefore harmless -- but almost certainly would be rejected by any cat !

My view on this issue is to not give chicken bones to cats.  Yes, they can chew them up and digest them...  However, chicken bones splinter easily, and that makes it too easy for a splinter to cause a puncture.  

Yes, that probably does happen from time to time in nature (when animals, including cats, eat birds), but I don&#039;t want that to happen to any of MY cats.  Even if it&#039;s just a poke in their mouth.  It&#039;s not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.  (And it probably is small.)  

Cats, as a species, will certainly survive if freely given bones, but I want &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;specific&lt;/i&gt; cats to survive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, your English is quite good &#8212; better than many Americans, actually.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Coocked&#8221; is actually spelled &#8220;cooked&#8221;.  For English-speaking people, the word is very general, and does not denote a particular type or style of cooking.  So you would have to depend on context to determine which style of cooking (broiled, baked, simmered, etc.), and what device was used (microwave, stove, etc.).</p>
<p>As far as digesting cooked versus raw bones, a cat would be able to digest either.  Some types of cooking might be able to break down some of the protein matrix that makes up bone, but would likely require a meat tenderizer (i.e., protein enzymes) to really do much as far as that&#8217;s concerned.  An acid (e.g., vinegar) can de-mineralize bone &#8212; rendering it flexible, and therefore harmless &#8212; but almost certainly would be rejected by any cat !</p>
<p>My view on this issue is to not give chicken bones to cats.  Yes, they can chew them up and digest them&#8230;  However, chicken bones splinter easily, and that makes it too easy for a splinter to cause a puncture.  </p>
<p>Yes, that probably does happen from time to time in nature (when animals, including cats, eat birds), but I don&#8217;t want that to happen to any of MY cats.  Even if it&#8217;s just a poke in their mouth.  It&#8217;s not worth the risk, even if the risk is small.  (And it probably is small.)  </p>
<p>Cats, as a species, will certainly survive if freely given bones, but I want <b>my</b> <i>specific</i> cats to survive.</p>
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		By: Dan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2015 19:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Me again.
So yeah, i browsed this page on my mobile before. Now i discovered this is a good science blog!

Awesome.

But well, maybe is a myth then.
My english sucks, so pardon me.

But uhm.
This link:

http://fairfaxfreecitizen.com/2014/03/02/old-spouses-tale-feed-bones-dogs-cats/

Can anyone answer me about a cats stomache acid.
Can it digest coocked chicken bones also then?

What i understand, people who write all over internet, and in my country to. DONT FEED COOCKED chicken bones,

Thats why i panicked a bit last time, when i after feeding my first BARF (Bones and raw food) diet too my loved kitten. (7 months old.)

But 20-30 seconds in a microwave, i dont know if it even changes the molecules in the bones structure! Might need a minute or two for that,

Also, i dont know the word &quot;coocked&quot; in my language.
If its, boiled chicken, or in oven, or microwave.

?

....
But yeah, i dont know if evolution has counted in brittle bones, in cats.
Mine chewed his first BARF chicken wing good.

So there can not be splinters.
I had this worst scenario in my head after that.

&quot;I hope i didnt kill my cat&quot;.

Like, something stuck in his intestines, like punchured, blood , etc...
 Would be horrible!

But i think my cat is fine. I guess, i hope he threw up hairballs yesterday, or that he had eaten too much,

Its good to try and research, when i am learning more about cats, when i own one.

I dont wanna kill my cat by accident, you know. ;)

So yeah,

is coocked chicken bones a myth or not?...
Does anybody know?...

Its kinda hard to know by science, perhaps.

Would be awesome if mythbusters did an episode on this subject! Way back...

But all the people all over internet that writes that this is a BAD THING. Coocked chicken bones.

Maybe they have a point, but i guess they think about that a chicken bone can splinter and cause like a &quot;needle&quot;, in the stomache.

And that would be bad ofcourse. Then, they might be right ofcourse.

Anyways. Can a cat digest both coocked/prepared bones and raw bones?
Even if the molecules have changed in a coocked chicken bone?

is it dangerous, or safe, is it a myth?

If someone knows, please answer, if you got the time.
Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me again.<br />
So yeah, i browsed this page on my mobile before. Now i discovered this is a good science blog!</p>
<p>Awesome.</p>
<p>But well, maybe is a myth then.<br />
My english sucks, so pardon me.</p>
<p>But uhm.<br />
This link:</p>
<p><a href="http://fairfaxfreecitizen.com/2014/03/02/old-spouses-tale-feed-bones-dogs-cats/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://fairfaxfreecitizen.com/2014/03/02/old-spouses-tale-feed-bones-dogs-cats/</a></p>
<p>Can anyone answer me about a cats stomache acid.<br />
Can it digest coocked chicken bones also then?</p>
<p>What i understand, people who write all over internet, and in my country to. DONT FEED COOCKED chicken bones,</p>
<p>Thats why i panicked a bit last time, when i after feeding my first BARF (Bones and raw food) diet too my loved kitten. (7 months old.)</p>
<p>But 20-30 seconds in a microwave, i dont know if it even changes the molecules in the bones structure! Might need a minute or two for that,</p>
<p>Also, i dont know the word &#8220;coocked&#8221; in my language.<br />
If its, boiled chicken, or in oven, or microwave.</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>&#8230;.<br />
But yeah, i dont know if evolution has counted in brittle bones, in cats.<br />
Mine chewed his first BARF chicken wing good.</p>
<p>So there can not be splinters.<br />
I had this worst scenario in my head after that.</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope i didnt kill my cat&#8221;.</p>
<p>Like, something stuck in his intestines, like punchured, blood , etc&#8230;<br />
 Would be horrible!</p>
<p>But i think my cat is fine. I guess, i hope he threw up hairballs yesterday, or that he had eaten too much,</p>
<p>Its good to try and research, when i am learning more about cats, when i own one.</p>
<p>I dont wanna kill my cat by accident, you know. 😉</p>
<p>So yeah,</p>
<p>is coocked chicken bones a myth or not?&#8230;<br />
Does anybody know?&#8230;</p>
<p>Its kinda hard to know by science, perhaps.</p>
<p>Would be awesome if mythbusters did an episode on this subject! Way back&#8230;</p>
<p>But all the people all over internet that writes that this is a BAD THING. Coocked chicken bones.</p>
<p>Maybe they have a point, but i guess they think about that a chicken bone can splinter and cause like a &#8220;needle&#8221;, in the stomache.</p>
<p>And that would be bad ofcourse. Then, they might be right ofcourse.</p>
<p>Anyways. Can a cat digest both coocked/prepared bones and raw bones?<br />
Even if the molecules have changed in a coocked chicken bone?</p>
<p>is it dangerous, or safe, is it a myth?</p>
<p>If someone knows, please answer, if you got the time.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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