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		By: home loans		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[home loans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When you are in a not good position and have got no cash to go out from that, you will have to receive the credit loans. Because it should aid you emphatically. I get credit loan every time I need and feel myself fine just because of it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are in a not good position and have got no cash to go out from that, you will have to receive the credit loans. Because it should aid you emphatically. I get credit loan every time I need and feel myself fine just because of it. </p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498042</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference.&quot;

Yes they would - somehow I missed that as the message of your earlier post. I would give my comment as a response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes they would &#8211; somehow I missed that as the message of your earlier post. I would give my comment as a response.</p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference.&quot;

Yes they would - somehow I missed that as the message of your earlier post. I would give my comment as a response.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes they would &#8211; somehow I missed that as the message of your earlier post. I would give my comment as a response.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The antivaxers tend to say that there is a mere three percent difference. </p>
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		By: dean		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;In good years, if you are not vaccinated you have a 4% chance of getting the flu, but if vaccinated, you have a 1% chance, for a mere three percent difference. &quot;

I would say this: the difference is three [b] percentage points [/b], and the change from 1% to 4% is still a 300% increase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In good years, if you are not vaccinated you have a 4% chance of getting the flu, but if vaccinated, you have a 1% chance, for a mere three percent difference. &#8221;</p>
<p>I would say this: the difference is three [b] percentage points [/b], and the change from 1% to 4% is still a 300% increase.</p>
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		By: gwen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 06:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Got mine at work. As a nurse, it is state law in California. If I decided not to get it, I have to fill out a form. Got my family vaccinated too, just like I do every year.. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got mine at work. As a nurse, it is state law in California. If I decided not to get it, I have to fill out a form. Got my family vaccinated too, just like I do every year.. 🙂</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Russel, the study referred to shows the following:

In years when there is a good match between vaccine and flu, your chance of getting the flu is 300% higher if you are not vaccinated.  In years when the match is poor, your chance of getting the flu is double if you are not vaccinated. In between years are, unsurprisingly, in between. 

In other words, the flu vaccine is effective in preventing flu infections.

The way the study is described, however, is the following:

In good years, if you are not vaccinated you have a 4% chance of getting the flu, but if vaccinated, you have a 1% chance, for a mere three percent difference.  Same sort of description for poor years. 

So yes, Cochrane and this particular reporter are crackpot antivaxers, not tribunes of a hidden truth.

Get your flu shot. 

It is, of course, true that the flu vaccine is overall pretty crappy for a vaccine.  It  would sure be nice to get something that works better, but in the mean time we&#039;ve got to go for the marked reduction in infections and if enough people get vaccinated, we can get even better numbers because in order to get the flu you have to be exposed to someone who has it.  Which, statistically speaking, is mainly the unvaccinated.  


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russel, the study referred to shows the following:</p>
<p>In years when there is a good match between vaccine and flu, your chance of getting the flu is 300% higher if you are not vaccinated.  In years when the match is poor, your chance of getting the flu is double if you are not vaccinated. In between years are, unsurprisingly, in between. </p>
<p>In other words, the flu vaccine is effective in preventing flu infections.</p>
<p>The way the study is described, however, is the following:</p>
<p>In good years, if you are not vaccinated you have a 4% chance of getting the flu, but if vaccinated, you have a 1% chance, for a mere three percent difference.  Same sort of description for poor years. </p>
<p>So yes, Cochrane and this particular reporter are crackpot antivaxers, not tribunes of a hidden truth.</p>
<p>Get your flu shot. </p>
<p>It is, of course, true that the flu vaccine is overall pretty crappy for a vaccine.  It  would sure be nice to get something that works better, but in the mean time we&#8217;ve got to go for the marked reduction in infections and if enough people get vaccinated, we can get even better numbers because in order to get the flu you have to be exposed to someone who has it.  Which, statistically speaking, is mainly the unvaccinated.  </p>
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		By: Fuzzbutt		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fuzzbutt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If only the flu was a once-and-done thing.  I had it at Halloween.  Need to get that shot already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only the flu was a once-and-done thing.  I had it at Halloween.  Need to get that shot already.</p>
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		By: Russell		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/13/dont-forget-to-get-your-flu-sh/#comment-498035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Russell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The question is, does it work?

http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&amp;SubSectionID=9&amp;ArticleID=12400

I feel a bit sorry for that poor epidemiologist, because anyone today who raises questions about the efficacy of the flu vaccine is inevitably going to get lumped with the nuts who think childhood vaccines cause autism. But an epidemiologists gotta do what epidemiologists do. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is, does it work?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&#038;SubSectionID=9&#038;ArticleID=12400" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.lakelandtimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=9&#038;SubSectionID=9&#038;ArticleID=12400</a></p>
<p>I feel a bit sorry for that poor epidemiologist, because anyone today who raises questions about the efficacy of the flu vaccine is inevitably going to get lumped with the nuts who think childhood vaccines cause autism. But an epidemiologists gotta do what epidemiologists do. </p>
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		By: Garrett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Garrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MGH is offering monetary incentive for partners employees if we achieve a certain percentage of employees that get the shot.  Got mine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MGH is offering monetary incentive for partners employees if we achieve a certain percentage of employees that get the shot.  Got mine.</p>
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