Comments on: If you keep telling them to bring guns, they will eventually start shooting. https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/ Thu, 07 Dec 2017 01:02:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.6 By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497686 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:44:40 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497686 OK “suspected suspect” is a sort of typo (word duplication) but it’s actually accurate. They don’t know he’s a suspect. They just suspect he might be.

]]> By: Epistaxis https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497685 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:31:44 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497685 “Suspected suspect” is suspect.

]]> By: Jim Thomerson https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497684 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:02:39 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497684 Guy was interviewed on TV last night. He heard the shots and ran out to see what was happening. Saw a man and a woman wrestling with the shooter who was trying to change magazines. The guy helped, got on the shooter and held him down. Law enforcement was there in three or four minutes. The interviewed guy was carrying a gun but did not take it out. Wise of him under the circumstances, I think.

]]> By: sinned34 https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497683 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 18:53:09 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497683 A perfect example of those second amendment solutions we’ve been hearing so much about these past two years!

]]> By: Erin R https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497682 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 08:40:10 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497682 Surprise, surprise. Fox News has already jumped on his story about trying to join the military and writing “none” for religion, and his “I don’t trust in god.”

Because, clearly, his lack of religion is the most important factor in this. Fuck faux news.

]]> By: Greg Laden https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497681 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:07:04 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497681 Gwen, exactly. It is possible that they’ll be very little damage or damage that will manefest itself very subtly. Or, something like tauma induced CP, or something like a stroke-like damage.

There are multiple kinds of damage and recovery through that damage is sequential. Most distal to the event of the bullet going through the brain is blood building up pressure and damaging brain tissue, but that is probably the first thing they try to control in surgury, and when the Dr. at the news conference expressed optimism that is probably what he was talking about. Then there is overall swelling, which can be as bad as the blood pooling but can be controlled using a variety of techniques. It can kill you or it can just be bad for a while and go away.

Then, near the site of the bullet tract or any other physical damage will be traumatized neural tissue, indurated with blood and messed up in other ways, which may very well return to normal but it takes days or weeks. Then, there is the totally destroyed neural tissue which can’t restore, but funciton related to that tissue can restore, or be compensated for, depending on what that function is and what else is going on in the brain. That recovery can take a long time, minimally several weeks, up to several months or even years.

]]> By: gwen https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497680 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 03:57:54 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497680 D.C Sessions. As a Critical Care nurse I can tell you that a bullets either go through and through, or are stopped by the other side of the skull to bounce around and give you a scrambled egg effect–usually leading to death. A through and through is survivable, depending on which part of the brain is struck. Obviously, we need our entire brain, optimally, but a frontal lobe injury is less debilitating (other than the affects on personality and cognition) than a uniformly fatal bullet to the brain stem, which is located, as you would guess, in the back of your head. The amount of disability will depend upon what was hit, and I am sure there will be disability. That fact that she will survive, doesn’t tell us what she will be left with….

]]> By: UPDATE https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497679 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 02:55:43 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497679 Updated

]]> By: Lorax https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497678 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 00:56:16 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497678 Thanks for the link. I got more and more worked up as I wrote it and read about the shooting. The apologetics are coming fast and furious.

]]> By: Narad, the Man of Iron https://gregladen.com/blog/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497677 Sun, 09 Jan 2011 00:39:50 +0000 http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/08/if-you-keep-telling-them-to-br/#comment-497677 A congressional official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that the gunman was using an automatic weapon.

Machine pistol? Ruling out muskets and 15-shot revolvers?

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