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		By: Snel Geld Verdienen		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/12/31/linux-ease-of-use-designing-th/#comment-528959</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snel Geld Verdienen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 15:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Linux is a great platform for use on servers and if you are a little bit geeky for your desktop. The power of Linux is it&#039;s flexibility but you can&#039;t expect that all hardware is supported. I just love Linux on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rivalmedia.nl&quot; style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rival media&lt;/a&gt; server environment but on my normal Desktop i can&#039;t live without a normal windows installation.

But i have to admit that with the coming of ubuntu it&#039;s much more user friendly then ever! It&#039;s just not that practical when you need to run a bunch of applications that are not supported without virtualization.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is a great platform for use on servers and if you are a little bit geeky for your desktop. The power of Linux is it&#8217;s flexibility but you can&#8217;t expect that all hardware is supported. I just love Linux on my <a href="http://www.rivalmedia.nl" style="color:#000000;" rel="nofollow">rival media</a> server environment but on my normal Desktop i can&#8217;t live without a normal windows installation.</p>
<p>But i have to admit that with the coming of ubuntu it&#8217;s much more user friendly then ever! It&#8217;s just not that practical when you need to run a bunch of applications that are not supported without virtualization.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Linux is not for everybody.  Linux users are just a little smarter and a little more focused and a little more serious than the users of other operating systems.  

But that&#039;s OK.  It&#039;s OK to be a Windows user or a Mac user.  Leave the more challenging and powerful system to us.  You don&#039;t really need it, and couldn&#039;t really make use of it anyway. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is not for everybody.  Linux users are just a little smarter and a little more focused and a little more serious than the users of other operating systems.  </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s OK.  It&#8217;s OK to be a Windows user or a Mac user.  Leave the more challenging and powerful system to us.  You don&#8217;t really need it, and couldn&#8217;t really make use of it anyway. </p>
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		By: not telling		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[simple problem - linux doesn&#039;t isntall properlyu with everyuthing needed out of the box i cant even play videos or use itunes or use my webcam without spending hours truing to find a fic!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple problem &#8211; linux doesn&#8217;t isntall properlyu with everyuthing needed out of the box i cant even play videos or use itunes or use my webcam without spending hours truing to find a fic!</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rick, I agree. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, I agree. </p>
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		By: Rick O'Leary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 21:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a Linux user, a Mac user and a Windows user, who was for many years a Mac Genius...

This was a very good article and, and I expect to get nasty stuff for saying this: The Mac is very similar to Linux, especially behind the GUI, and it is nearly (but not quite) as easy to fix.

And you don&#039;t get Windows style viruses. (Same as Linux)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Linux user, a Mac user and a Windows user, who was for many years a Mac Genius&#8230;</p>
<p>This was a very good article and, and I expect to get nasty stuff for saying this: The Mac is very similar to Linux, especially behind the GUI, and it is nearly (but not quite) as easy to fix.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t get Windows style viruses. (Same as Linux)</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[maybe two (differently colored) curves in the same &quot;coordinates&quot;?
I&#039;m not really visualizing this, but this graphic is intended only to be a visual expression (yes?)
anyway, it&#039;s done already. :-)

grandmaready seems the much larger topic. 

the ease vs hard curve seems only a statement. there&#039;s not much reason to comment on the idea. i suppose if &quot;somebody&quot; added points (representing each distro) on the curve as if it were a real graph, then opinions would fly :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe two (differently colored) curves in the same &#8220;coordinates&#8221;?<br />
I&#8217;m not really visualizing this, but this graphic is intended only to be a visual expression (yes?)<br />
anyway, it&#8217;s done already. 🙂</p>
<p>grandmaready seems the much larger topic. </p>
<p>the ease vs hard curve seems only a statement. there&#8217;s not much reason to comment on the idea. i suppose if &#8220;somebody&#8221; added points (representing each distro) on the curve as if it were a real graph, then opinions would fly 🙂</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I absolutely wouldn&#039;t put embedded systems, servers, and desktop systems in the same category (so they really don&#039;t belong on the same curve), but I put them on the same &quot;curve&quot; anyway exactly because it normally isn&#039;t done and thus an important point is missed:  the average person who swears off Linux is like that guy in the christmas movie who tries to jump off the bridge.  If you removed all Linux systems that the average person uses every day, it would be Potterville everywhere. 

The grandma readiness is, of course, a different point.  Perhaps this could have been two posts?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely wouldn&#8217;t put embedded systems, servers, and desktop systems in the same category (so they really don&#8217;t belong on the same curve), but I put them on the same &#8220;curve&#8221; anyway exactly because it normally isn&#8217;t done and thus an important point is missed:  the average person who swears off Linux is like that guy in the christmas movie who tries to jump off the bridge.  If you removed all Linux systems that the average person uses every day, it would be Potterville everywhere. </p>
<p>The grandma readiness is, of course, a different point.  Perhaps this could have been two posts?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OSX
&lt;em&gt;why is the myth that Mac OS X is as different from Linux as is Windows so prevalent?&lt;/em&gt;
afaik, because few osx users go into cli. 

&lt;em&gt;if you can afford it, get them a Mac.&lt;/em&gt;
a factory refurb mini is likely cheapest with apple support.

&lt;em&gt; If they need primarily internet access get them an iPad&lt;/em&gt;
i&#039;m totally speculating that android touch tablets  will be better choice... but .... they&#039;ve  already been written up at the usual fansites.
afaik, the ipad is tied to proprietary net service (presumably ppl have jailbroken ipads to run on standard wifi, but that&#039;s way out from granny ready)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OSX<br />
<em>why is the myth that Mac OS X is as different from Linux as is Windows so prevalent?</em><br />
afaik, because few osx users go into cli. </p>
<p><em>if you can afford it, get them a Mac.</em><br />
a factory refurb mini is likely cheapest with apple support.</p>
<p><em> If they need primarily internet access get them an iPad</em><br />
i&#8217;m totally speculating that android touch tablets  will be better choice&#8230; but &#8230;. they&#8217;ve  already been written up at the usual fansites.<br />
afaik, the ipad is tied to proprietary net service (presumably ppl have jailbroken ipads to run on standard wifi, but that&#8217;s way out from granny ready)</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[easy vs hard nix:
i don&#039;t think non desktop pcs should be on the qualitative curve. you wouldn&#039;t put motorcycles on a curve with pickup trucks, right? or even closer, but imo needing separate curves: servers (pickups) separate from desktops (soccermom vans or crossover suvs)

i very much agree with dual/multiboot adding unfair &#039;defect&#039; to nix, in realworld &quot;nix vs win&quot; comparison. Grub2 upgrade borked my multiboot &#039;test&#039; pc. Admittedly anecdotal &#039;data&#039;, but searches readily found forum posts with same symptoms.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>easy vs hard nix:<br />
i don&#8217;t think non desktop pcs should be on the qualitative curve. you wouldn&#8217;t put motorcycles on a curve with pickup trucks, right? or even closer, but imo needing separate curves: servers (pickups) separate from desktops (soccermom vans or crossover suvs)</p>
<p>i very much agree with dual/multiboot adding unfair &#8216;defect&#8217; to nix, in realworld &#8220;nix vs win&#8221; comparison. Grub2 upgrade borked my multiboot &#8216;test&#8217; pc. Admittedly anecdotal &#8216;data&#8217;, but searches readily found forum posts with same symptoms.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;father-in-law had a Windows XP box, and it would never run longer than 3 months&lt;/em&gt;
(default xp wasn&#039;t very secure until sp2 in 2004, imo)
Retail PCs may come with win &#039;preinstalled&#039;, but they really aren&#039;t ready to go. 
i mean not ready for &quot;grandma&quot;, because no default install is ready for my use :-)
MS has a &#039;OOBE&#039; standard that results in &quot;everything&quot; running. so their biggest headache since the lax-security (naive internet) late  90&#039;s is how to secure the pc, yet avoid much setup for whatever the diverse unknown users want to do. (digression: MS still handles legacy well)
Then, most users should find better apps than the foistware. or just uninstall the apps they&#039;ll never use. 

i&#039;m not a linux user because i&#039;ve &#039;evolved&#039; with windows, and my productivity on  linux would be very aggravating. 
but i&#039;m casually researching installing a netbook distro as an alternative PC for a grandparent age person. what holds me back is that i&#039;m not a nix user (reason given above), yet i would be support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>father-in-law had a Windows XP box, and it would never run longer than 3 months</em><br />
(default xp wasn&#8217;t very secure until sp2 in 2004, imo)<br />
Retail PCs may come with win &#8216;preinstalled&#8217;, but they really aren&#8217;t ready to go.<br />
i mean not ready for &#8220;grandma&#8221;, because no default install is ready for my use 🙂<br />
MS has a &#8216;OOBE&#8217; standard that results in &#8220;everything&#8221; running. so their biggest headache since the lax-security (naive internet) late  90&#8217;s is how to secure the pc, yet avoid much setup for whatever the diverse unknown users want to do. (digression: MS still handles legacy well)<br />
Then, most users should find better apps than the foistware. or just uninstall the apps they&#8217;ll never use. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m not a linux user because i&#8217;ve &#8216;evolved&#8217; with windows, and my productivity on  linux would be very aggravating.<br />
but i&#8217;m casually researching installing a netbook distro as an alternative PC for a grandparent age person. what holds me back is that i&#8217;m not a nix user (reason given above), yet i would be support.</p>
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