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		By: nyxx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With all the talk about him being promiscuous...and these women having a fear of getting a STD...UM..then why did they bang a guy they really do not know, if they are so worried about a STD. Makes no sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all the talk about him being promiscuous&#8230;and these women having a fear of getting a STD&#8230;UM..then why did they bang a guy they really do not know, if they are so worried about a STD. Makes no sense.</p>
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		By: ErikDK		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rough sex isnt rape, lying about not having a condom to get unprotected sex when she wants sex too much to stop you isnt rape, Being an ass afterwards doesnt turn the sex you just had into rape... Rape is rape, this is not rape.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rough sex isnt rape, lying about not having a condom to get unprotected sex when she wants sex too much to stop you isnt rape, Being an ass afterwards doesnt turn the sex you just had into rape&#8230; Rape is rape, this is not rape.</p>
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		By: prasad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 02:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have &lt;a href=&quot;http://accidentalblogger.typepad.com/accidental_blogger/2010/12/suppose-hes-not-guilty-prasad.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogged&lt;/a&gt; a conspiracy theory version of this; it seems to me date rape would be a *smart* thing for EvilShadyGovernmentAgency to play with here, not a dumb one - you place Assange anywhere near a dead 12 year old boy and no-one&#039;s going to believe it. Changing-definitions-of-rape actually works at splitting his base. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have <a href="http://accidentalblogger.typepad.com/accidental_blogger/2010/12/suppose-hes-not-guilty-prasad.html" rel="nofollow">blogged</a> a conspiracy theory version of this; it seems to me date rape would be a *smart* thing for EvilShadyGovernmentAgency to play with here, not a dumb one &#8211; you place Assange anywhere near a dead 12 year old boy and no-one&#8217;s going to believe it. Changing-definitions-of-rape actually works at splitting his base. </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Martin, three things, just off the top of my head.

1. Why is it your concern instead of the courts? Why are you trying the women in the arena of public opinion?

2. You need this: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://almostdiamonds.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-must-she-behave-to-have-been-raped.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Must She Behave to Have Been Raped&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.

3. No, of course you weren&#039;t raped, you idiot. You&#039;re stating here that you were consenting. The partners who woke you up that way, however, were risking committing rape.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, three things, just off the top of my head.</p>
<p>1. Why is it your concern instead of the courts? Why are you trying the women in the arena of public opinion?</p>
<p>2. You need this: &#8220;<a href="http://almostdiamonds.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-must-she-behave-to-have-been-raped.html" rel="nofollow">How Must She Behave to Have Been Raped</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>3. No, of course you weren&#8217;t raped, you idiot. You&#8217;re stating here that you were consenting. The partners who woke you up that way, however, were risking committing rape.</p>
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		By: MartinDH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have several concerns about these accusations
1) They were not reported until several days had passed.
2) They were only reported when each &quot;victim&quot; found that Assange had been fucking with the other (with the assumption that NO reports of assault would have been made if both were ignorant of Assange&#039;s dalliances).
3) Both victims continued to associate with Assange after the alleged assaults. One letting him stay at her apartment and throwing a party for him.
4) Assange was in Sweden and available for questioning for several weeks after these accusations were made, and it appears the previous prosecutor decided there was no criminal case to be made, allowing Assange to leave Sweden with a &quot;clean record&quot;. The current prosecutor appears to have resurrected these complaints AFTER Wikileak&#039;s latest data dump.

The whole thing STINKS of political manipulation by the US, UK and Swedish governments so that Assange can be held until the USian AG can drum up some charges and request Assange&#039;s extradition to the US.

As soon as that happens, I&#039;m betting the Swedish government will drop its extradition request or cede priority to the US.

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As to the allegations:
I&#039;m very troubled by his refusal to use a condom and agree with both women that Assange should have a full STD screening with any positive results reported to the women.

The rough sex one seems to be a she said/he said situation with the woman&#039;s credibility greatly diminished by her late reporting and continued friendly association with Assange.
 
I have several pleasant memories of being woken by a morning rider after a night of consensual sex. Was I being assaulted then? 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have several concerns about these accusations<br />
1) They were not reported until several days had passed.<br />
2) They were only reported when each &#8220;victim&#8221; found that Assange had been fucking with the other (with the assumption that NO reports of assault would have been made if both were ignorant of Assange&#8217;s dalliances).<br />
3) Both victims continued to associate with Assange after the alleged assaults. One letting him stay at her apartment and throwing a party for him.<br />
4) Assange was in Sweden and available for questioning for several weeks after these accusations were made, and it appears the previous prosecutor decided there was no criminal case to be made, allowing Assange to leave Sweden with a &#8220;clean record&#8221;. The current prosecutor appears to have resurrected these complaints AFTER Wikileak&#8217;s latest data dump.</p>
<p>The whole thing STINKS of political manipulation by the US, UK and Swedish governments so that Assange can be held until the USian AG can drum up some charges and request Assange&#8217;s extradition to the US.</p>
<p>As soon as that happens, I&#8217;m betting the Swedish government will drop its extradition request or cede priority to the US.</p>
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As to the allegations:<br />
I&#8217;m very troubled by his refusal to use a condom and agree with both women that Assange should have a full STD screening with any positive results reported to the women.</p>
<p>The rough sex one seems to be a she said/he said situation with the woman&#8217;s credibility greatly diminished by her late reporting and continued friendly association with Assange.</p>
<p>I have several pleasant memories of being woken by a morning rider after a night of consensual sex. Was I being assaulted then? </p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still looking for that mythical feminist left that&#039;s decided Assange is guilty. All I keep seeing are people who believe they know how all rape victims react.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still looking for that mythical feminist left that&#8217;s decided Assange is guilty. All I keep seeing are people who believe they know how all rape victims react.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s also the whole jerk thing, which goes along with the cult worship we are seeing. 

Julian Assange by his own evidence, by the things he says, is a jerk, was a jerk to these women.  Most people would figure that if you&#039;re going to be a jerk, if bad shit rains down upon you due to that jerkines, you deserved at least some of it. But what we are seeing here are strident efforts to make sure that the whole jerk thing not apply to Assange.  

As is generally the case with cult leaders. 

I hasten to add that I don&#039;t actually think Julian Assange is trying to be a cult leader.  Maybe, maybe not.  But he&#039;d being treated that way, and the young man is too naive and uneducated in the ways of the world to see this happening, and seemingly unequipped to say something sensible to the would be cult followers.  The guy is NOT John Lennon.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the whole jerk thing, which goes along with the cult worship we are seeing. </p>
<p>Julian Assange by his own evidence, by the things he says, is a jerk, was a jerk to these women.  Most people would figure that if you&#8217;re going to be a jerk, if bad shit rains down upon you due to that jerkines, you deserved at least some of it. But what we are seeing here are strident efforts to make sure that the whole jerk thing not apply to Assange.  </p>
<p>As is generally the case with cult leaders. </p>
<p>I hasten to add that I don&#8217;t actually think Julian Assange is trying to be a cult leader.  Maybe, maybe not.  But he&#8217;d being treated that way, and the young man is too naive and uneducated in the ways of the world to see this happening, and seemingly unequipped to say something sensible to the would be cult followers.  The guy is NOT John Lennon.  </p>
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		By: Bill James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 22:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.feminisnt.com/2010/the-feminist-left-versus-julian-assange-how-a-fanatical-belief-in-every-sex-crime-allegation-hurts-everyone/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Feminisnt Â» The feminist left versus Julian Assange: how a fanatical belief in every sex crime allegation hurts everyone&lt;/a&gt;

Note: Link not entirely safe for work.

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&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;&#039;Victim one&#039; bragged about bagging Assange, threw a party for him the day after he &quot;raped&quot; her, and only decided she&#039;d been &quot;raped&quot; after finding out she wasn&#039;t his only lover.  Earlier this year, her blog also promoted an article about how to exact malicious revenge on the unfaithful.  (That series of events apparently could sound suspect only to a woman-hating rape-apologist?)  Once two jilted Assange groupies discovered each other, the women who&#039;d previously stayed friendly with Assange even after their &quot;assaults&quot; (while thinking they were his only girl) got upset and decided to go to the police.  And, even then, they didn&#039;t go to press rape charges at first, they went to see if they could force Assange to undergo STI testing.  After there wasn&#039;t enough evidence to charge him with anything, and then after repeat tries got the charges thrown out of court, one woman escalated her claim and said that, yes, actually, she did recall that he held her down with his bodyweight when they had sex.  The rape hysterics have been holding that part up as the new lynch pin in the case.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is quite a bit more to read there... Me, I&#039;m just trying to ascertain the time line of events.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.feminisnt.com/2010/the-feminist-left-versus-julian-assange-how-a-fanatical-belief-in-every-sex-crime-allegation-hurts-everyone/" rel="nofollow">Feminisnt Â» The feminist left versus Julian Assange: how a fanatical belief in every sex crime allegation hurts everyone</a></p>
<p>Note: Link not entirely safe for work.</p>
<p>Quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8216;Victim one&#8217; bragged about bagging Assange, threw a party for him the day after he &#8220;raped&#8221; her, and only decided she&#8217;d been &#8220;raped&#8221; after finding out she wasn&#8217;t his only lover.  Earlier this year, her blog also promoted an article about how to exact malicious revenge on the unfaithful.  (That series of events apparently could sound suspect only to a woman-hating rape-apologist?)  Once two jilted Assange groupies discovered each other, the women who&#8217;d previously stayed friendly with Assange even after their &#8220;assaults&#8221; (while thinking they were his only girl) got upset and decided to go to the police.  And, even then, they didn&#8217;t go to press rape charges at first, they went to see if they could force Assange to undergo STI testing.  After there wasn&#8217;t enough evidence to charge him with anything, and then after repeat tries got the charges thrown out of court, one woman escalated her claim and said that, yes, actually, she did recall that he held her down with his bodyweight when they had sex.  The rape hysterics have been holding that part up as the new lynch pin in the case.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>There is quite a bit more to read there&#8230; Me, I&#8217;m just trying to ascertain the time line of events.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Denials?  What denials? 
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep, you&#039;re wrong. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, you&#8217;re wrong. </p>
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