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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/12/omfg-words-fail-me/#comment-526236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was a kid in upstate new york camping on Lake Champlain I would scrounge for coins to put on the freight train track near the lake.  Usually, you couldn&#039;t find the squished count, but when you could it was cool.  

A little chewing gum would keep it on the rail until the train hit it. 

(I think for a while my parents thought that encouraging me to play along the rail road track would be more efficient than leaving me in the forest)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was a kid in upstate new york camping on Lake Champlain I would scrounge for coins to put on the freight train track near the lake.  Usually, you couldn&#8217;t find the squished count, but when you could it was cool.  </p>
<p>A little chewing gum would keep it on the rail until the train hit it. </p>
<p>(I think for a while my parents thought that encouraging me to play along the rail road track would be more efficient than leaving me in the forest)</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/12/omfg-words-fail-me/#comment-526235</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Z]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, not sure about the third rail. With respect to derailments, though, I was thinking about the myth of the penny on the track. Some people do seem to get terribly upset when it turns out to not be true--to the extent of getting in there and trying to push the train off the track themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, not sure about the third rail. With respect to derailments, though, I was thinking about the myth of the penny on the track. Some people do seem to get terribly upset when it turns out to not be true&#8211;to the extent of getting in there and trying to push the train off the track themselves.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stella, no it certainly is not, and I was not speaking of her or about her.  

Reader, do the work, I say!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stella, no it certainly is not, and I was not speaking of her or about her.  </p>
<p>Reader, do the work, I say!</p>
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		By: Stella		</title>
		<link>https://gregladen.com/blog/2010/11/12/omfg-words-fail-me/#comment-526233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;(I didn&#039;t say that out loud, did I?)&lt;/i&gt;

Oops, Greg, yes you did. 

In public. 

The woman in the video needs to be held responsible for her racism. It&#039;s hideous and outrageous and insupportable, but not tied to her female identity. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>(I didn&#8217;t say that out loud, did I?)</i></p>
<p>Oops, Greg, yes you did. </p>
<p>In public. </p>
<p>The woman in the video needs to be held responsible for her racism. It&#8217;s hideous and outrageous and insupportable, but not tied to her female identity. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it possible to work the Third Rail into this metaphor?  Somehow seems appropriate.

... which reminds me ... 

I just read the autobiographical description by Winston Churchill of his being taken prisoner in South Africa by the Boers in 1899.  The &quot;armored train&quot; he was riding on as part of recon into enemy territory, as a news correspondent, was ambushed by Boers.  This was the very week, possibly the very day, that the British suddenly learned that the Boers were not loosely organized yet &quot;brave and honorable etc.&quot; farmers with their shootin&#039; irons, but rather, the technologically best equipped army in the world at that time, having been semi-secretly (and well-fundedly from their own gold) been supplied by European sellers with the latest in artillery, excellent long guns, and various super machine gun sorts of devices, and this new device called a &quot;shell&quot; which loaded very quickly into the newly designed deadly artillery pieces.  

They used rapid firing artillery thingies to subdue Churchill&#039;s train&#039;s soldiers while elsewhere long range artillery with smokeless powder in the pre-made shells were bombarding the town of Ladysmith, in which was trapped most of the in-country British military force of Natal.

&quot;So what?&quot; one might say... (Well, if you didn&#039;t know that Winston Churchill spent time in South Africa as a POW, that would be a nice bit of new info).  So what is this: Though the train and the military units on it were subdued with artillery, that is not how it was originally caught. It was originally caught using a very intelligent plan and the oldest technology there is.  Like this:

First, as the train came &#039;round the bend the Brits could see the Boers up on a nearby hill (clue: you never saw the Boers unless they wanted you to see them, but the Brits didn&#039;t know that) at a point where the train was closest to the hill on a curve (clue: one would not normally avoid shooting at your quarry until the moment it is turned to escape, unless you wanted them to run away) shells started to land on both sides of the train (clue:  they seem to be systematically missing the point, but it scared the shit out of the civilian engineer who opened the throttle!) so the train sped up as fast as it could go.

Then the train ran smack dab into a medium sized rock the Boers had put on the track, and derailed (clue:  The best way to derail a train is with it&#039;s own massive weight.  And a rock.)

The lesson:  Running or trying to capture an armored train behind enemy lines in the Boer War is a lot like blogging, in so many ways that it leaves me speechless.  Except all the words, of course.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible to work the Third Rail into this metaphor?  Somehow seems appropriate.</p>
<p>&#8230; which reminds me &#8230; </p>
<p>I just read the autobiographical description by Winston Churchill of his being taken prisoner in South Africa by the Boers in 1899.  The &#8220;armored train&#8221; he was riding on as part of recon into enemy territory, as a news correspondent, was ambushed by Boers.  This was the very week, possibly the very day, that the British suddenly learned that the Boers were not loosely organized yet &#8220;brave and honorable etc.&#8221; farmers with their shootin&#8217; irons, but rather, the technologically best equipped army in the world at that time, having been semi-secretly (and well-fundedly from their own gold) been supplied by European sellers with the latest in artillery, excellent long guns, and various super machine gun sorts of devices, and this new device called a &#8220;shell&#8221; which loaded very quickly into the newly designed deadly artillery pieces.  </p>
<p>They used rapid firing artillery thingies to subdue Churchill&#8217;s train&#8217;s soldiers while elsewhere long range artillery with smokeless powder in the pre-made shells were bombarding the town of Ladysmith, in which was trapped most of the in-country British military force of Natal.</p>
<p>&#8220;So what?&#8221; one might say&#8230; (Well, if you didn&#8217;t know that Winston Churchill spent time in South Africa as a POW, that would be a nice bit of new info).  So what is this: Though the train and the military units on it were subdued with artillery, that is not how it was originally caught. It was originally caught using a very intelligent plan and the oldest technology there is.  Like this:</p>
<p>First, as the train came &#8217;round the bend the Brits could see the Boers up on a nearby hill (clue: you never saw the Boers unless they wanted you to see them, but the Brits didn&#8217;t know that) at a point where the train was closest to the hill on a curve (clue: one would not normally avoid shooting at your quarry until the moment it is turned to escape, unless you wanted them to run away) shells started to land on both sides of the train (clue:  they seem to be systematically missing the point, but it scared the shit out of the civilian engineer who opened the throttle!) so the train sped up as fast as it could go.</p>
<p>Then the train ran smack dab into a medium sized rock the Boers had put on the track, and derailed (clue:  The best way to derail a train is with it&#8217;s own massive weight.  And a rock.)</p>
<p>The lesson:  Running or trying to capture an armored train behind enemy lines in the Boer War is a lot like blogging, in so many ways that it leaves me speechless.  Except all the words, of course.</p>
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		By: Stephanie Z		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, for (this) Isabel, just about any other topic is a grand excuse to not discuss racism. That includes sexism, classism, how someone once &quot;promised&quot; her some information, all bloggers&#039; history of lying, a commenter&#039;s mental health....

Isabel is like a train wreck that only happens in certain places. After a certain number of derailments, a pattern emerges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, for (this) Isabel, just about any other topic is a grand excuse to not discuss racism. That includes sexism, classism, how someone once &#8220;promised&#8221; her some information, all bloggers&#8217; history of lying, a commenter&#8217;s mental health&#8230;.</p>
<p>Isabel is like a train wreck that only happens in certain places. After a certain number of derailments, a pattern emerges.</p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;danger of assuming your audience will go beyond reading when you write. &lt;/em&gt;

I dealt with that goblin a long time ago.  I ask a lot from my readers.  I probably have a lot fewer readers than I otherwise would because of that.

The video is where the racist shit is.  The white suburban woman explains to the black mail carrier that blacks have lower IQ and that is why he is being held back calls him a &quot;nigger thief&quot; and physically assaults him.  So now you don&#039;t have to see the video. If you follow various links in the comments and onward, you can eventually find the local (Hingham MA) web site where this is being discussed, and people who may or may not know the woman and/or the man in the video make random, often obnoxious comments which Isabel is holding me responsible for.

And, if you go way back and read this Isabel&#039;s comments (there are at least two distinct Isabel commetners here) many months back you&#039;ll find that for her, sexism is actually all about her, about her being right, about her judging, and about her punishing. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>danger of assuming your audience will go beyond reading when you write. </em></p>
<p>I dealt with that goblin a long time ago.  I ask a lot from my readers.  I probably have a lot fewer readers than I otherwise would because of that.</p>
<p>The video is where the racist shit is.  The white suburban woman explains to the black mail carrier that blacks have lower IQ and that is why he is being held back calls him a &#8220;nigger thief&#8221; and physically assaults him.  So now you don&#8217;t have to see the video. If you follow various links in the comments and onward, you can eventually find the local (Hingham MA) web site where this is being discussed, and people who may or may not know the woman and/or the man in the video make random, often obnoxious comments which Isabel is holding me responsible for.</p>
<p>And, if you go way back and read this Isabel&#8217;s comments (there are at least two distinct Isabel commetners here) many months back you&#8217;ll find that for her, sexism is actually all about her, about her being right, about her judging, and about her punishing. </p>
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		By: Samantha Vimes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha Vimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah. I rarely play videos, so if it was the subject of the original post you were parodying, of course someone only reading would miss the joke, and see only a sudden turn from a reasonable request not to threadjack to a descent into unmasked sexism. I acknowlege the failure on my part to research, but that is the danger of assuming your audience will go beyond reading when you write. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I rarely play videos, so if it was the subject of the original post you were parodying, of course someone only reading would miss the joke, and see only a sudden turn from a reasonable request not to threadjack to a descent into unmasked sexism. I acknowlege the failure on my part to research, but that is the danger of assuming your audience will go beyond reading when you write. </p>
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		By: Josephine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josephine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ellid, you failed to understand the comment. Dr. Laden was not referring to the woman in the video as menstruating. 

There seems to be a lot of this going on here, mostly from Isabel. People commenting here pointing to other web sites did not say the things on those web sites. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellid, you failed to understand the comment. Dr. Laden was not referring to the woman in the video as menstruating. </p>
<p>There seems to be a lot of this going on here, mostly from Isabel. People commenting here pointing to other web sites did not say the things on those web sites. </p>
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		By: Greg Laden		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Laden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Samantha, this is between me and Isabel.  Denial or apology would be entirely inappropriate.  My comment was, obviously, a parody.  

Isabel, that is your last comment on this blog.  You are a vile person and this blog is not your forum. Though, I was utterly surprised that you recognized my absurd comment as humor (entirely at your expense, obviously).  I had not seen any evidence of a sense of humor in you before. 

Ellid, I wasn&#039;t going on the accent.  And, if you knew Isabel as I know Isabel you&#039;d probably get what I said, but I don&#039; expect it.






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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha, this is between me and Isabel.  Denial or apology would be entirely inappropriate.  My comment was, obviously, a parody.  </p>
<p>Isabel, that is your last comment on this blog.  You are a vile person and this blog is not your forum. Though, I was utterly surprised that you recognized my absurd comment as humor (entirely at your expense, obviously).  I had not seen any evidence of a sense of humor in you before. </p>
<p>Ellid, I wasn&#8217;t going on the accent.  And, if you knew Isabel as I know Isabel you&#8217;d probably get what I said, but I don&#8217; expect it.</p>
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